I think there's a few things going on. I think it's reasonable to assume that not all people who want to be able to program at a sufficient level to derive a li

I think there's a few things going on. I think it's reasonable to assume that not all people who want to be able to program at a sufficient level to derive a living salary on will be able to. I don't know what the percentage is, but something exists, and we need to be aware of that. (I personally assume that 75% of people with a GED or equivalent can be eventually coached into some sort of useful position. I have no evidence for this, but that's just how I view the world. My office-mates like to call me an optimist). The other is that ya, coaching and training is hard. There's a post somewhere else in thread about some guy hating his job cause he needs to coach up new bootcamp hires for like a year or something to get fully up to speed. Let's not lie to ourselves about how long "eventually" (in eventually get good) is. I just took a quick look at my province's college of trades, and they quote 6000 hours (5280 hours on work and 720 hours in school) of apprenticeship/training before being considered "competent" at welding. If you go look at a bunch of the more technical "blue collar" jobs or trades (like mechanical draftsman, HVAC technician, etc), you all see numbers around that mark. Now, there's surely some fudgery going on. Very likely by the last year of their apprenticeships, you'll have many apprentices that are infact ready to just be done and are just logging hours for the book... but still, I think its a relevant guide. Even at half the length, you're talking roughly a year to a year and a half (which matches up well with other poster's experience coincidentally...) to train up. Seems like the bootcamps might be a good subsitute for the "in class" portion of these apprenticeship programs, but nothing more.