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To adapt a quote from one of my favorite movies: "Not everyone can become a great coder; but a great coder can come from anywhere." That's what (in my opinion)

by chomp 7y ago

To adapt a quote from one of my favorite movies: "Not everyone can become a great coder; but a great coder can come from anywhere." That's what (in my opinion) you should take away from "everybody can code." I think it's obvious that not every single person in the world has the external characteristics to be a great software developer. But those with passion and curiosity will be able to make a great career for themselves.

crispyambulance 7y ago
I think people got too hung up on "greatness" and some vague idea of "coding" as a kind of gold-rush job (pardon the pun). Could the school have instead focused on more boring general job skills with a special focus on using software effectively? I think so. I think it would have been more successful than teaching "the LAMP stack" or whatever it was they did. Not that software development is rocket science, but it's true that it's not for everybody, and neither is accounting, nursing, engineering, teaching or plumbing.
0x445442 7y ago
The best Pixar movie IMHO.
- ShamelessC 7y ago
  Which one is it?
  - 0x445442 7y ago
    Ratatouille
throwaway413 7y ago
Linguini, is that you?
pmiller2 7y ago
Why does everybody need to be “great”?
- chomp 7y ago
  Not everyone really needs to be great. The person who learns coding to scratch an itch like creating a small website for their family business just needs to know how to put their ideas on a screen. But these initiatives that try to promise high paying jobs to everyone who applies, it's just not going to work out for everyone who goes through the mill. And yeah, I think to have a long career as a software developer, you need a little more than "meets expectations." You need the drive to improve and grow after you leave the program and even once you land your job. So, I think when you get a newbie who has passion, is personable, and who submits themselves to iterative improvement, I really do think that makes a great developer.
freewilly1040 7y ago
Are you sure? Seems to me that less skilled and less dynamic engineers are the first people to have their jobs automated away.

by chomp 7y ago

crispyambulance 7y ago

I think people got too hung up on "greatness" and some vague idea of "coding" as a kind of gold-rush job (pardon the pun). Could the school have instead focused on more boring general job skills with a special focus on using software effectively? I think so. I think it would have been more successful than teaching "the LAMP stack" or whatever it was they did. Not that software development is rocket science, but it's true that it's not for everybody, and neither is accounting, nursing, engineering, teaching or plumbing.

0x445442 7y ago

The best Pixar movie IMHO.

ShamelessC 7y ago
Which one is it?
- 0x445442 7y ago
  Ratatouille

throwaway413 7y ago

Linguini, is that you?

pmiller2 7y ago

Why does everybody need to be “great”?

chomp 7y ago
Not everyone really needs to be great. The person who learns coding to scratch an itch like creating a small website for their family business just needs to know how to put their ideas on a screen. But these initiatives that try to promise high paying jobs to everyone who applies, it's just not going to work out for everyone who goes through the mill. And yeah, I think to have a long career as a software developer, you need a little more than "meets expectations." You need the drive to improve and grow after you leave the program and even once you land your job. So, I think when you get a newbie who has passion, is personable, and who submits themselves to iterative improvement, I really do think that makes a great developer.

freewilly1040 7y ago

Are you sure? Seems to me that less skilled and less dynamic engineers are the first people to have their jobs automated away.