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The Mystery of Human Uniqueness (2013)

22 points by dnetesn 8y ago

anon1m0us 8y ago
I don't see our uniqueness as something different, something not seen in other species. Rather, we are only slightly better, a fraction of a percent better. The compounding of that fraction of 1% over 4-7 million years has led to the dramatic differences between us and the rest. That's why the article says it's a mystery. Humans are looking for a thing. Something we have they don't. There isn't anything. We just do those things better, faster, more dramatically and for longer which has widened the gap between what we have and what they have. Same would be true of a human being who compounded their wealth over time. Families who have compounded their wealth for just a few decades now have as much wealth as half a planet of humans. We don't ask for what one thing separates them from us, we know what it is. The power of compounding interest over time.
- roenxi 8y ago
  And from that perspective, the major difference between humans and animals is that we are just slightly better at organising than they are. Written script, the ability to perfectly capture and preserve commentary, enables intellectual compounding across millennia. That knowledge is probably our biggest advantage as a species and it comes as an offshoot of us using communication to organise ourselves in a flexible way. It isn't that much different from any other pack animal in one sense, the outcomes are just much better. There are animals that are more cooperative, there are animals that are better working independently. Humans seem to have found a real optimum in how we interact with an odd and malleable mix of independence and cooperation. Even different human civilisations show remarkable variance in material results depending on how they choose to organise themselves.
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  - fifnir 8y ago
    >That knowledge is probably our biggest advantage as a species And if you take this knowledge out of a person, they are little more than a wild animal.
Xcelerate 8y ago
I think we're probably going about this the wrong way. Imagine trying to figure out how two computer programs are different by looking at their compiled machine code. Small differences in input can produce massive differences in program output. So if our brains are at least partly "algorithmic" (as opposed to a smooth function that maps input to output), then superficial similarity in brain structure probably doesn't mean a whole lot. There have been some recent attempts in biology to understand the genome of different organisms using approximations to Kolmogorov complexity. The basic idea is to tweak the existing genome slightly in different ways to see if it "compresses" better or worse. I wouldn't be surprised if this approach eventually reveals a starker difference between organisms than trying to compare physical structure.
smartbit 8y ago
Humans eat cooked food which gives us 2 major advantages 1. we can digest a lot of energy and power our brains with it that consume some 30% of our energy intake 2. we digest it fast, giving us ample time to do other things
- YUMad 8y ago
  Also it kills parasites. Parasite load is a significant fitness parameter.

22 points by dnetesn 8y ago

I don't see our uniqueness as something different, something not seen in other species. Rather, we are only slightly better, a fraction of a percent better. The compounding of that fraction of 1% over 4-7 million years has led to the dramatic differences between us and the rest. That's why the article says it's a mystery. Humans are looking for a thing. Something we have they don't. There isn't anything. We just do those things better, faster, more dramatically and for longer which has widened the gap between what we have and what they have. Same would be true of a human being who compounded their wealth over time. Families who have compounded their wealth for just a few decades now have as much wealth as half a planet of humans. We don't ask for what one thing separates them from us, we know what it is. The power of compounding interest over time.

roenxi 8y ago
And from that perspective, the major difference between humans and animals is that we are just slightly better at organising than they are. Written script, the ability to perfectly capture and preserve commentary, enables intellectual compounding across millennia. That knowledge is probably our biggest advantage as a species and it comes as an offshoot of us using communication to organise ourselves in a flexible way. It isn't that much different from any other pack animal in one sense, the outcomes are just much better. There are animals that are more cooperative, there are animals that are better working independently. Humans seem to have found a real optimum in how we interact with an odd and malleable mix of independence and cooperation. Even different human civilisations show remarkable variance in material results depending on how they choose to organise themselves.
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- fifnir 8y ago
  >That knowledge is probably our biggest advantage as a species And if you take this knowledge out of a person, they are little more than a wild animal.

Xcelerate 8y ago

I think we're probably going about this the wrong way. Imagine trying to figure out how two computer programs are different by looking at their compiled machine code. Small differences in input can produce massive differences in program output. So if our brains are at least partly "algorithmic" (as opposed to a smooth function that maps input to output), then superficial similarity in brain structure probably doesn't mean a whole lot. There have been some recent attempts in biology to understand the genome of different organisms using approximations to Kolmogorov complexity. The basic idea is to tweak the existing genome slightly in different ways to see if it "compresses" better or worse. I wouldn't be surprised if this approach eventually reveals a starker difference between organisms than trying to compare physical structure.

smartbit 8y ago

Humans eat cooked food which gives us 2 major advantages 1. we can digest a lot of energy and power our brains with it that consume some 30% of our energy intake 2. we digest it fast, giving us ample time to do other things

YUMad 8y ago
Also it kills parasites. Parasite load is a significant fitness parameter.