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Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired

by zoul 7y ago

Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics. Also, Apple has a recycling program. Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation? If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s entirely my fault if it ends up on a landfill. True, I would wish the headphones to be more repairable, but there’s a big difference between designing a repairable washing machine and repairable wireless headphones. The design constraints are pretty tight I imagine. Writing such hateful and poor quality articles is not going to improve anything.

sebazzz 7y ago
> Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones All? My Sennheiser Urbanite XL has screws hidden behind the removable ear pads, I'm pretty sure the battery is easily replaced. Except it doesn't have to be replaced yet.
- wodenokoto 7y ago
  As if they are even remotely the same size.
  - rudiv 7y ago
    My Jabra 65t's can have their batteries replaced. Happy?
carmate383 7y ago
You're reading Vice. What did you expect?
hsbaut76 7y ago
It's an entertaining article and it's not trying to be deceptive about that fact. Apple should be held to the highest standard, considering they are the world's richest and most successful company. Frankly, Apple disgusts me
- krustyburger 7y ago
  When consumers decide that Apple products are no longer worth a significant premium for their design, their ease of use and the company’s acknowledgement of the existence of such a thing as user privacy (and I sincerely doubt this will happen for a very long time, if ever), they will stop selling so many products and their market share will shrink and so will their market capitalization. As someone who dislikes Apple, you’ll be pleased to know that their stock price could go all the way back down to levels as low as the ones that obtained before Steve Jobs returned as CEO. In fact, their shares could hypothetically go all the way to zero as the company failed completely. Even in this preposterous (and tremendously implausible) scenario, Apple would be a company that failed as it tried to sell physical products and continued to go to battle for the privacy rights of its users. And this is the company that disgusts you? Not the ones who profit by using dark patterns to monetize every misbehavior and bad habit of their users?
  - hsbaut76 7y ago
    Oh please, Apple is a hardware company and that's why their profits don't require the exploitation of user data, otherwise they would be doing it. I mean, they exploit the natural resources of the planet and 3rd world slaves to make completely unserviceable devices ridden with planned obsolescence, so why wouldn't they exploit your user data if they needed to? I'm not saying that other tech companies are any better, I'm saying that Apple, being the richest and most successful, should be pioneering change in the tech sector on all fronts, but most importantly social and environmental.
    - krustyburger 7y ago
      You make a fair point. I’m also aware that their pivot toward emphasizing user privacy smacks of opportunism. Not only because they are a hardware company, as you say, but because their rivals had left the territory completely virgin. But even given this motive, I view privacy as the single most important issue in the tech industry at this time. I therefore am very glad that at least one powerful company is making a stand against the most nefarious practices of the others. So Apple will have my loyalty in my purchases as a consumer until they move away from the positions they have staked out. And, I hope the market will continue to reward them handsomely for what they are doing.
wayneftw 7y ago
> Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Such a strong statement! I look forward to the rest of your comment wherein you detail these "irrelevant infos and memes" and "hate". > Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics. So after complaining about "irrelevant info and memes" you're leading with whataboutism? Where's your evidence for your initial statement? > Also, Apple has a recycling program. Big whoop. So does Best Buy, Walmart and Target. That doesn't change the fact that wired headphones could last 20 years whereas the ones Apple now pushes could never ever last that long. > Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation? Would it be too much to ask for you to support your initial statements with some actual evidence? Anyway, I thought it was obvious that a recycling program wouldn't change the situation. > If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s entirely my fault if it ends up on a landfill. So, it's your fault that Apple sells overpriced crap that sounds bad and and has to be recycled after a year of usage, but they market it really well so that people that are naturally susceptible to such types of marketing are forced to buy it as a status symbol? I don't think so. Seems like a societal/biological issue. > True, I would wish the headphones to be more repairable, but there’s a big difference between designing a repairable washing machine and repairable wireless headphones. The design constraints are pretty tight I imagine. Headphone jacks worked great since forever. What ever happened to those? I guess you blame Vice for marketing a worse replacement and engineering it to look like a better option by removing headphone jacks? > Writing such hateful and poor quality articles is not going to improve anything. I feel like your analysis is severely lacking here. Frankly, the more people who know about the overpriced, overhyped garbage that Apple sells, the better.

by zoul 7y ago

sebazzz 7y ago

> Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones All? My Sennheiser Urbanite XL has screws hidden behind the removable ear pads, I'm pretty sure the battery is easily replaced. Except it doesn't have to be replaced yet.

wodenokoto 7y ago
As if they are even remotely the same size.
- rudiv 7y ago
  My Jabra 65t's can have their batteries replaced. Happy?

carmate383 7y ago

You're reading Vice. What did you expect?

hsbaut76 7y ago

It's an entertaining article and it's not trying to be deceptive about that fact. Apple should be held to the highest standard, considering they are the world's richest and most successful company. Frankly, Apple disgusts me

krustyburger 7y ago
When consumers decide that Apple products are no longer worth a significant premium for their design, their ease of use and the company’s acknowledgement of the existence of such a thing as user privacy (and I sincerely doubt this will happen for a very long time, if ever), they will stop selling so many products and their market share will shrink and so will their market capitalization. As someone who dislikes Apple, you’ll be pleased to know that their stock price could go all the way back down to levels as low as the ones that obtained before Steve Jobs returned as CEO. In fact, their shares could hypothetically go all the way to zero as the company failed completely. Even in this preposterous (and tremendously implausible) scenario, Apple would be a company that failed as it tried to sell physical products and continued to go to battle for the privacy rights of its users. And this is the company that disgusts you? Not the ones who profit by using dark patterns to monetize every misbehavior and bad habit of their users?
- hsbaut76 7y ago
  Oh please, Apple is a hardware company and that's why their profits don't require the exploitation of user data, otherwise they would be doing it. I mean, they exploit the natural resources of the planet and 3rd world slaves to make completely unserviceable devices ridden with planned obsolescence, so why wouldn't they exploit your user data if they needed to? I'm not saying that other tech companies are any better, I'm saying that Apple, being the richest and most successful, should be pioneering change in the tech sector on all fronts, but most importantly social and environmental.
  - krustyburger 7y ago
    You make a fair point. I’m also aware that their pivot toward emphasizing user privacy smacks of opportunism. Not only because they are a hardware company, as you say, but because their rivals had left the territory completely virgin. But even given this motive, I view privacy as the single most important issue in the tech industry at this time. I therefore am very glad that at least one powerful company is making a stand against the most nefarious practices of the others. So Apple will have my loyalty in my purchases as a consumer until they move away from the positions they have staked out. And, I hope the market will continue to reward them handsomely for what they are doing.

wayneftw 7y ago

> Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Such a strong statement! I look forward to the rest of your comment wherein you detail these "irrelevant infos and memes" and "hate". > Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics. So after complaining about "irrelevant info and memes" you're leading with whataboutism? Where's your evidence for your initial statement? > Also, Apple has a recycling program. Big whoop. So does Best Buy, Walmart and Target. That doesn't change the fact that wired headphones could last 20 years whereas the ones Apple now pushes could never ever last that long. > Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation? Would it be too much to ask for you to support your initial statements with some actual evidence? Anyway, I thought it was obvious that a recycling program wouldn't change the situation. > If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s entirely my fault if it ends up on a landfill. So, it's your fault that Apple sells overpriced crap that sounds bad and and has to be recycled after a year of usage, but they market it really well so that people that are naturally susceptible to such types of marketing are forced to buy it as a status symbol? I don't think so. Seems like a societal/biological issue. > True, I would wish the headphones to be more repairable, but there’s a big difference between designing a repairable washing machine and repairable wireless headphones. The design constraints are pretty tight I imagine. Headphone jacks worked great since forever. What ever happened to those? I guess you blame Vice for marketing a worse replacement and engineering it to look like a better option by removing headphone jacks? > Writing such hateful and poor quality articles is not going to improve anything. I feel like your analysis is severely lacking here. Frankly, the more people who know about the overpriced, overhyped garbage that Apple sells, the better.