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I can’t help but think that Apple was eventually right. Using gestures or scroll wheels to scroll feels superior to dragging a bar with your mouse, and 3D Touc
by ericye16 7y ago
I can’t help but think that Apple was eventually right. Using gestures or scroll wheels to scroll feels superior to dragging a bar with your mouse, and 3D Touch for fine cursor placement on iPhones that support it is better than arrow keys could have been. (Admittedly, I guess this was not a solution when the post came out.)
Disclosure, was once an Apple intern though not on these teams.
Edit: going deeper, I think the reason why you wouldn’t want scroll bars and arrow keys is because they’re designed for the wrong modality. They were necessary when a mouse and keyboard were the only ways to interact with stuff, but they don’t really make sense on touchpads and touchscreens and have their own limitations that can be overcome with gestures (like accurately scrolling large distances at once, for example.) Imagine if today’s high-precision touch sensors were ubiquitous before the mouse. Would it make sense in that world to ask for a scroll bar to be constantly beside the window or for arrow keys in your phone? I don’t think so.
- chrischen 7y agoScroll bars actually show if you don't have a trackpad and are using a mouse.
- ericye16 7y agoYep, I’ve noticed that too. It’s a nice touch.
- dehrmann 7y ago> I can’t help but think that Apple was eventually right...3D Touch I say this as a 3D touch user (which is basically a right click, a concept foreign to Apple for some time), but one of the few features missing from the iPhone XR and present in the XS is 3D touch. Rumor is they're going to removed it in the next model.
- knolan 7y agoAt lease the functionality is still there using haptic touch or whatever it’s called.
- andy_ppp 7y agoIs this long press effectively or?
- culturestate 7y agoEssentially yes[1], but I prefer 3D Touch because there's almost no input delay - you just press harder on the screen and it triggers more or less immediately. 1. Apple does actually use long press as well, but afaik only for rearranging icons.
- saagarjha 7y agoLong press is used throughout the OS for many things, and it’s conceptually a different interaction from 3D Touch. Unfortunately many apps (including some of Apple’s) don’t make this distribution and equate the two, which is convenient implementation wise because it allows for one action to support optional hardware.
- srik 7y agoIt's not the same. Haptic touch just provides a virtual click like sensation to the finger. 3D touch is an actual additional input on the touch area.
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