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I hate excessively loud bikes as much as anyone; there is a line between 'hearable' and 'earsplitting' that is often missed. Is not some noise, though, a de min

I hate excessively loud bikes as much as anyone; there is a line between 'hearable' and 'earsplitting' that is often missed. Is not some noise, though, a de minimis appropriate compense for the danger associated with choosing a lighter weight, more environmental, and federal HOV-compliant vehicle? If the per person transportation ecologics and economics are favorable for bikes vs. cars shouldn't we look to improve the externalities (safety) around such transportation methods? Even if it comes with some externtalacious discomfort? (fwiw my current vehicle is approximately the loudest allowable per federal regulations, because I enjoy the sound it makes, not safety per say.)

inflatableDodo 7y ago
>fwiw my current vehicle is approximately the loudest allowable per federal regulations I believe Dennis Leary wrote a song about this kind of thing.
kuzehanka 7y ago
> because I enjoy the sound it makes I don't. The worst way to start my day is to be woken up by some moron revving their Harley on the road near my home at 6.20am. GP's point is that everyone is paying the price for the choices that operators of motorbikes make. No one wants to listen to 'loudest allowable per federal regulations' riding past their family home after-hours. That price needs to be factored into the cost of operating a motorbike/truck/other loud transport near population centres.
- thereisnospork 7y ago
  >I don't. The worst way to start my day is to be woken up by some moron revving their Harley on the road near my home at 6.20am. That might be relevant if those Harley's were anywhere near the legal dB limit. P.S. the hate I'm getting here for stating that I follow the law, to the letter, on noise regulations is insane. If you/anyone think a straight pipe Harley is close to legal check your facts.
ohyeshedid 7y ago
"I hate excessively loud bikes as much as anyone..." "(fwiw my current vehicle is approximately the loudest allowable per federal regulations, because I enjoy the sound it makes, not safety per say.)" These two statements don't balance.
- thereisnospork 7y ago
  The loudest allowable is far less loud than what you or anyone else would call a 'loud' bike - that balances fine.

inflatableDodo 7y ago

>fwiw my current vehicle is approximately the loudest allowable per federal regulations I believe Dennis Leary wrote a song about this kind of thing.

kuzehanka 7y ago

> because I enjoy the sound it makes I don't. The worst way to start my day is to be woken up by some moron revving their Harley on the road near my home at 6.20am. GP's point is that everyone is paying the price for the choices that operators of motorbikes make. No one wants to listen to 'loudest allowable per federal regulations' riding past their family home after-hours. That price needs to be factored into the cost of operating a motorbike/truck/other loud transport near population centres.

thereisnospork 7y ago
>I don't. The worst way to start my day is to be woken up by some moron revving their Harley on the road near my home at 6.20am. That might be relevant if those Harley's were anywhere near the legal dB limit. P.S. the hate I'm getting here for stating that I follow the law, to the letter, on noise regulations is insane. If you/anyone think a straight pipe Harley is close to legal check your facts.

ohyeshedid 7y ago

"I hate excessively loud bikes as much as anyone..." "(fwiw my current vehicle is approximately the loudest allowable per federal regulations, because I enjoy the sound it makes, not safety per say.)" These two statements don't balance.

thereisnospork 7y ago
The loudest allowable is far less loud than what you or anyone else would call a 'loud' bike - that balances fine.