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My, perhaps naive, question is: will there now be a bifurcation of the Java community? Specifically, will there be an open community with its own standards and
by timtadh 16y ago
My, perhaps naive, question is: will there now be a bifurcation of the Java community? Specifically, will there be an open community with its own standards and implementations, and the Oracle community with theirs.
- davidw 16y agoThe problem seems to be that you can't simply just go implement something independently and call it, say, "Dalvik", rather than Java, and avoid Oracle's lawyers, due to patents.
- grav1tas 16y agoThen how difficult would it be to create a new Java that has the features (syntactical and whatever else) that everybody's been clamoring for and calling it a different name? C# basically did that, and it's still around....
- davidw 16y agoThat's exactly what I said. You can't just give it a different name and do a clean-room implementation, because it still likely violates some patents.
- Swannie 16y agoAnd the patents is where the problems lie. Which is the problem with not being able to pass the TCK - no access to the patent pool. How does the MS CLR get around this issue? Surely their VM is infringing on some of this pool? Do they now licence from Oracle? If only it WAS this simple... this hypothetical situation would be awesome!
- bad_user 16y agoC#/.NET definitely infringes Java-related patents. But on the other hand Microsoft has been working on programming languages and related tools ever since the start: they definitely have patents with which they can strike back. Heck, they are in the same league as IBM when speaking of patents. Only trolls have the balls to go after them.