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Great thanks for proving my point. Let’s replace technologist by medical professionals and you can see immediately that parents consent is required for most med

Great thanks for proving my point. Let’s replace technologist by medical professionals and you can see immediately that parents consent is required for most medical procedures barring edge cases where doctors get a court order. Oh also COPPA exists for this very deluded thinking that “technologist” like you have.

jdietrich 7y ago
> Let’s replace technologist by medical professionals and you can see immediately that parents consent is required for most medical procedures barring edge cases where doctors get a court order. Many states allow minors to receive mental health treatment without the consent of their parents and allow those minors to retain confidentiality. https://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F1067828X.2013.777380 https://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F1067828X.2013.777380
DanBC 7y ago
This article is from England, and the context is a person in England who died by suicide, and the English government advancing white papers that talk about online harm. In that context, the English rules abuot medical treatment seem useful. Someone the age of 16 or over is assumed to have capacity to make medical decisions by themselves (and there's complex law to regulate if they're thought to lack that capacity). Someone under 15 or under can also have that capacity: the doctor would need to check if the patient is Gillick Competent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillick_competence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillick_competence
- geofft 7y ago
  Interesting! Wikipedia claims: "The House of Lords focused on the issue of consent rather than a notion of 'parental rights' or parental power. In fact, the court held that 'parental rights' did not exist, other than to safeguard the best interests of a minor." I am of the opinion that we should give significant credence to a minor over the age of, say, eight who says "I do not trust my parents to act in my best interests." This may generally involve having a qualified doctor or social worker evaluate the child's best interests instead of making the child decide, but at least a doctor or a social worker, unlike a parent, had qualifications to evaluate the options and has no conflict of interest unlike a parent.
geofft 7y ago
Medical procedures, yes. But it's standard for doctors to ask parents of minors to leave the room so the doctor can speak privately, even if they don't suspect abuse, isn't it?

jdietrich 7y ago

> Let’s replace technologist by medical professionals and you can see immediately that parents consent is required for most medical procedures barring edge cases where doctors get a court order. Many states allow minors to receive mental health treatment without the consent of their parents and allow those minors to retain confidentiality. https://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F1067828X.2013.777380 https://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F1067828X.2013.777380

DanBC 7y ago

This article is from England, and the context is a person in England who died by suicide, and the English government advancing white papers that talk about online harm. In that context, the English rules abuot medical treatment seem useful. Someone the age of 16 or over is assumed to have capacity to make medical decisions by themselves (and there's complex law to regulate if they're thought to lack that capacity). Someone under 15 or under can also have that capacity: the doctor would need to check if the patient is Gillick Competent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillick_competence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillick_competence

geofft 7y ago
Interesting! Wikipedia claims: "The House of Lords focused on the issue of consent rather than a notion of 'parental rights' or parental power. In fact, the court held that 'parental rights' did not exist, other than to safeguard the best interests of a minor." I am of the opinion that we should give significant credence to a minor over the age of, say, eight who says "I do not trust my parents to act in my best interests." This may generally involve having a qualified doctor or social worker evaluate the child's best interests instead of making the child decide, but at least a doctor or a social worker, unlike a parent, had qualifications to evaluate the options and has no conflict of interest unlike a parent.

geofft 7y ago

Medical procedures, yes. But it's standard for doctors to ask parents of minors to leave the room so the doctor can speak privately, even if they don't suspect abuse, isn't it?