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> The fact that you need a license, yet can't get one, is a clear signal that it isn't ready for production use. Everything you said is reasonable except this.

by jarym 7y ago

> The fact that you need a license, yet can't get one, is a clear signal that it isn't ready for production use. Everything you said is reasonable except this. If it isn’t ready for production use then no need to beat about the bush by advertising a commercial license you can’t get? And if one doesn’t exist by the way how are Twitter using it in production?

StevePerkins 7y ago
I honestly don't know how to explain this more clearly. They are not "advertising a commercial license". They are saying NOT to use the Enterprise version in production, because licensing is not yet available. The only reference I've ever seen to Twitter using GraalVM in production is in this discussion thread. And that commenter clearly states that Twitter is using the open-source community edition. No one who would ever conceivably be a paying Oracle customer would be confused by any of this. When that much money is on the table, there are experienced people in the room with reading comprehension.
- tom_mellior 7y ago
  > They are not "advertising a commercial license". https://blogs.oracle.com/graalvm/announcement https://blogs.oracle.com/graalvm/announcement "GraalVM Enterprise is available for purchase and is free on Oracle Cloud." > They are saying NOT to use the Enterprise version in production [citation needed] > The only reference I've ever seen to Twitter using GraalVM in production is in this discussion thread. Considering that Twitter has been talking about this in public for some time, this statement is unlikely to make the point you were trying to make: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5NDkIZBOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5NDkIZBOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtgKmzgIh4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtgKmzgIh4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbccuoaLChk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbccuoaLChk
kjeetgill 7y ago
Twitter uses the free GPL Community Edition in production. EE is faster but a lot of the magick is in the open source one.

by jarym 7y ago

StevePerkins 7y ago

I honestly don't know how to explain this more clearly. They are not "advertising a commercial license". They are saying NOT to use the Enterprise version in production, because licensing is not yet available. The only reference I've ever seen to Twitter using GraalVM in production is in this discussion thread. And that commenter clearly states that Twitter is using the open-source community edition. No one who would ever conceivably be a paying Oracle customer would be confused by any of this. When that much money is on the table, there are experienced people in the room with reading comprehension.

tom_mellior 7y ago
> They are not "advertising a commercial license". https://blogs.oracle.com/graalvm/announcement https://blogs.oracle.com/graalvm/announcement "GraalVM Enterprise is available for purchase and is free on Oracle Cloud." > They are saying NOT to use the Enterprise version in production [citation needed] > The only reference I've ever seen to Twitter using GraalVM in production is in this discussion thread. Considering that Twitter has been talking about this in public for some time, this statement is unlikely to make the point you were trying to make: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5NDkIZBOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5NDkIZBOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtgKmzgIh4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtgKmzgIh4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbccuoaLChk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbccuoaLChk

kjeetgill 7y ago

Twitter uses the free GPL Community Edition in production. EE is faster but a lot of the magick is in the open source one.