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I didn’t down vote you, but you really misunderstand old people. As I mentioned in another comment, my 97 year old Dad (almost 98!) uses computers and he has ta

I didn’t down vote you, but you really misunderstand old people. As I mentioned in another comment, my 97 year old Dad (almost 98!) uses computers and he has taught himself 3D animation, has started to write scripts, makes little movies blending real video and video with CGI added, and helps make biography documentaries for his friends’ families. He also goes out three or four nights a week to dinner, plays, movies, the local MIT club entrepreneur talks, etc., etc. Most of my Dad’s friends are similar: physically frail, but still have curiosity and zest for life. Also, there should be no stigma for growing old. We all grow old and eventually die. Very natural thing. What we can do is to enjoy every day and be kind and loving to other people, looking more for what you can do for them than what you can get out of them.

logicprog 8y ago
Very awesome story. But doesn't this prove the GP's point then? Not all old people are incapable of figuring things out --by your anecdote-- and the GP's point is that the ones that are, have just lost their patience and perseverance for that stuff, not that they actually are incapable of finding a menu item because they're old now. And things requiring a bit of patience isn't discrimination, it's just that some things require patience. There are young people that act like this too, where they refuse to even look through menus for a bit or try different buttons, and we don't say computers are discriminatory against young people? Granted we should most definitely still have accessibility features. Not having captions or bigger font options is pretty discriminatory.
- ghaff 8y ago
  Well, there are things that require patience and perseverance because they're complex. And they're things that require patience and perseverance because they're designed poorly. It seems to me perfectly rational to come to the realization with age that life really is too short to put up with poorly-designed devices and services. There are perhaps not enough devices and services that are well-designed but they're out there.

logicprog 8y ago

Very awesome story. But doesn't this prove the GP's point then? Not all old people are incapable of figuring things out --by your anecdote-- and the GP's point is that the ones that are, have just lost their patience and perseverance for that stuff, not that they actually are incapable of finding a menu item because they're old now. And things requiring a bit of patience isn't discrimination, it's just that some things require patience. There are young people that act like this too, where they refuse to even look through menus for a bit or try different buttons, and we don't say computers are discriminatory against young people? Granted we should most definitely still have accessibility features. Not having captions or bigger font options is pretty discriminatory.

ghaff 8y ago
Well, there are things that require patience and perseverance because they're complex. And they're things that require patience and perseverance because they're designed poorly. It seems to me perfectly rational to come to the realization with age that life really is too short to put up with poorly-designed devices and services. There are perhaps not enough devices and services that are well-designed but they're out there.