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Recently there was this too (made quite some noise on social networks) : https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/08/kiwi-browser-removed-from-play-store-due-to-yo

by scblzn 7y ago

Recently there was this too (made quite some noise on social networks) : https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/08/kiwi-browser-removed-from-play-store-due-to-youtube-background-playback/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/08/kiwi-browser-remove... Ok, this story is more about Google Play Store but I feel like there is maybe (in my opinion) some conflict and abuse of dominant position here too. Felt like it was relevant will all the other Google stories in the last days (Nest for ex.)

Fnoord 7y ago
For people who want this feature, consider NewPipe on F-Droid. A perfect example how a proprietary "app" does not do what you want whereas a FOSS app does.
- izacus 7y ago
  You mean break the copyright law? YouTube is very clear that they want you to pay for the content/service to play content in background.
  - deogeo 7y ago
    That's a Terms of Service violation, not copyright law violation. And enforcement of law and contract should not be built into programs - they're supposed to serve the user, not betray them to corporations and government.
    - deleted 7y ago
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  - Fnoord 7y ago
    It is a ToS violation at worst. There are numerous reasons to use the application. 1) FOSS, available in F-Droid. 2) Multitasking. 3) No ghost touching 4) Saves battery. My alternative would be using Firefox where I utilize uBlock.
- aibara 7y ago
  The Video Background Play Fix extension for Firefox for Android works well too.
- mises 7y ago
  It also supports downloads in various formats. Great example of how random groups of people can beat the official offering.
vatueil 7y ago
Just curious, this Kiwi Browser is a Chromium fork, but is it or is it not open source? I see that there's a repo on GitHub: https://github.com/kiwibrowser/android https://github.com/kiwibrowser/android But the status of the code is unclear (the readme just says it's unsupported), and the last public commit was months ago while the app on the Play Store (having been restored) was updated much more recently.
rahuldottech 7y ago
Fuck man, this is ridiculous! > Chromium-based Kiwi Browser attracted widespread attention last month after it added support for desktop Chrome extensions. The app recently vanished from the Play Store, and while some assumed it was due to the browser's new extension support, it was apparently removed due to its ability to play YouTube videos in the background — functionality that is supposed to be reserved for the native YouTube app with a Premium subscription. Fuck this shit man. As a kid I always wanted to work for Google. And now as a teen I find it hard to believe how they turned on the whole "don't do evil" thing. It's like a friend put it the last time I was ranting about this: "Its like funding out your childhood hero was a fraud :/"
- yumraj 7y ago
  What no one realized is that there was a comma missing. It wasn't: don't do evil, it was: don't, do evil.
- bgdam 7y ago
  As an aside, if any body does want to play Youtube videos in the background on their Android phone, without using the Youtube app, install Firefox for Android and install the Video Background Play Fix extension.
- ganeshkrishnan 7y ago
  I am rabidly against Google and people demanding breakup of Facebook, Amazon etc are really forgetting the snake in the grass, Google. As I said before, everyone loves Google until it stomps them on their face. People have been permanently banned from everything on Google for their bots stupid algorithm. Fuck Google and fuck everything they stand for.

by scblzn 7y ago

Fnoord 7y ago

For people who want this feature, consider NewPipe on F-Droid. A perfect example how a proprietary "app" does not do what you want whereas a FOSS app does.

izacus 7y ago
You mean break the copyright law? YouTube is very clear that they want you to pay for the content/service to play content in background.
- deogeo 7y ago
  That's a Terms of Service violation, not copyright law violation. And enforcement of law and contract should not be built into programs - they're supposed to serve the user, not betray them to corporations and government.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- Fnoord 7y ago
  It is a ToS violation at worst. There are numerous reasons to use the application. 1) FOSS, available in F-Droid. 2) Multitasking. 3) No ghost touching 4) Saves battery. My alternative would be using Firefox where I utilize uBlock.
aibara 7y ago
The Video Background Play Fix extension for Firefox for Android works well too.
mises 7y ago
It also supports downloads in various formats. Great example of how random groups of people can beat the official offering.

vatueil 7y ago

Just curious, this Kiwi Browser is a Chromium fork, but is it or is it not open source? I see that there's a repo on GitHub: https://github.com/kiwibrowser/android https://github.com/kiwibrowser/android But the status of the code is unclear (the readme just says it's unsupported), and the last public commit was months ago while the app on the Play Store (having been restored) was updated much more recently.

rahuldottech 7y ago

Fuck man, this is ridiculous! > Chromium-based Kiwi Browser attracted widespread attention last month after it added support for desktop Chrome extensions. The app recently vanished from the Play Store, and while some assumed it was due to the browser's new extension support, it was apparently removed due to its ability to play YouTube videos in the background — functionality that is supposed to be reserved for the native YouTube app with a Premium subscription. Fuck this shit man. As a kid I always wanted to work for Google. And now as a teen I find it hard to believe how they turned on the whole "don't do evil" thing. It's like a friend put it the last time I was ranting about this: "Its like funding out your childhood hero was a fraud :/"

yumraj 7y ago
What no one realized is that there was a comma missing. It wasn't: don't do evil, it was: don't, do evil.
bgdam 7y ago
As an aside, if any body does want to play Youtube videos in the background on their Android phone, without using the Youtube app, install Firefox for Android and install the Video Background Play Fix extension.
ganeshkrishnan 7y ago
I am rabidly against Google and people demanding breakup of Facebook, Amazon etc are really forgetting the snake in the grass, Google. As I said before, everyone loves Google until it stomps them on their face. People have been permanently banned from everything on Google for their bots stupid algorithm. Fuck Google and fuck everything they stand for.