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I just got mine too. Sadly, as expected, flash brings it to its knees and fonts look like Linux :( Otherwise pretty sweet. Think I'll try and sneak some bett

by kogir 16y ago

I just got mine too. Sadly, as expected, flash brings it to its knees and fonts look like Linux :( Otherwise pretty sweet. Think I'll try and sneak some better fonts on somehow and then use it for everything save Hulu and development.

patrickaljord 16y ago
> I just got mine too. Sadly, as expected, flash brings it to its knees and fonts look like Linux :( Fonts look better on my Ubuntu than on OS X. Don't generalize.
jacquesm 16y ago
Explain to me this: you receive something for free, and your first response is to find out what's wrong with it ?
- potatolicious 16y ago
  It's a test/dev machine, I'm pretty sure that's the point.
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    Interesting. I'd be so happy to receive a functioning computer for free with some new OS on it that I'd be too star-struck to see its warts for quite a while.
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    - kragen 16y ago
      I agree that it shouldn't, which is why I described it as "murder", but police in most countries enjoy a strong public-opinion presumption in their favor, since they most often fight against criminals, not innocent people. This means that they almost always get away with murder when they commit it, which attracts thugs to the police force and stabilizes police corruption. Keeping the police accountable is a very difficult task. I don't know whether the Netherlands is succeeding in doing that, or whether you're just unaware of their failure due to never having been treated as a bad guy.
      - jacquesm 16y ago
        Yes people do die in jail here. The causes are, in descending order of frequency: suicide (hangings), natural causes, inattention (probably some of the suicides fall in to this category as well and it is very bad for your career as an officer here to have that happen on your watch) and finally police brutality. The latter is but a very small fraction of the total.
jlees 16y ago
The fonts are fine, the rendering is an issue simply because we can't replicate 10+ years of proprietary work in fewer months. We're actively working on this. Be glad you didn't see the alpha ;)
kogir 16y ago
Wow. I'm sorry if my tone was off-putting, but what I said is true. End users won't get their devices for free and won't be forgiving. Sugar coating doesn't help the product succeed, which is what I want. Flash performance matters. Right now it's not possible to watch web video (save for sparse HTML5 video content which works), or video chat in Gmail. I want to get a ChromeOS device for my grandparents, for video chat, and if it ships like this I can't. Fonts might just be my personal weirdness, but I notice them and care a lot about them. I even installed Calibri on my Nexus One, and have replaced most of the fonts on my Ubuntu Maverick installation too. Linux font rendering has never been fantastic, but it's OK now. My issue is that no open source fonts I've seen shipped with any Linux distribution can compete with OS X's or Windows 7's shipping fonts. I've been using the device and I like it a lot. I've even filed a few bugs to try and help out. I won't pretend their aren't problems, and I won't be useful to Google as a tester unless I'm honest with myself, them and others.

by kogir 16y ago

patrickaljord 16y ago

> I just got mine too. Sadly, as expected, flash brings it to its knees and fonts look like Linux :( Fonts look better on my Ubuntu than on OS X. Don't generalize.

jacquesm 16y ago

Explain to me this: you receive something for free, and your first response is to find out what's wrong with it ?

potatolicious 16y ago
It's a test/dev machine, I'm pretty sure that's the point.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  Interesting. I'd be so happy to receive a functioning computer for free with some new OS on it that I'd be too star-struck to see its warts for quite a while.
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  - kragen 16y ago
    I agree that it shouldn't, which is why I described it as "murder", but police in most countries enjoy a strong public-opinion presumption in their favor, since they most often fight against criminals, not innocent people. This means that they almost always get away with murder when they commit it, which attracts thugs to the police force and stabilizes police corruption. Keeping the police accountable is a very difficult task. I don't know whether the Netherlands is succeeding in doing that, or whether you're just unaware of their failure due to never having been treated as a bad guy.
    - jacquesm 16y ago
      Yes people do die in jail here. The causes are, in descending order of frequency: suicide (hangings), natural causes, inattention (probably some of the suicides fall in to this category as well and it is very bad for your career as an officer here to have that happen on your watch) and finally police brutality. The latter is but a very small fraction of the total.

jlees 16y ago

The fonts are fine, the rendering is an issue simply because we can't replicate 10+ years of proprietary work in fewer months. We're actively working on this. Be glad you didn't see the alpha ;)

kogir 16y ago

Wow. I'm sorry if my tone was off-putting, but what I said is true. End users won't get their devices for free and won't be forgiving. Sugar coating doesn't help the product succeed, which is what I want. Flash performance matters. Right now it's not possible to watch web video (save for sparse HTML5 video content which works), or video chat in Gmail. I want to get a ChromeOS device for my grandparents, for video chat, and if it ships like this I can't. Fonts might just be my personal weirdness, but I notice them and care a lot about them. I even installed Calibri on my Nexus One, and have replaced most of the fonts on my Ubuntu Maverick installation too. Linux font rendering has never been fantastic, but it's OK now. My issue is that no open source fonts I've seen shipped with any Linux distribution can compete with OS X's or Windows 7's shipping fonts. I've been using the device and I like it a lot. I've even filed a few bugs to try and help out. I won't pretend their aren't problems, and I won't be useful to Google as a tester unless I'm honest with myself, them and others.