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seeing that we know very few things about the foundations of the real world we haven't got the slightest idea of what this "reality" is made up of What in the

seeing that we know very few things about the foundations of the real world we haven't got the slightest idea of what this "reality" is made up of What in the world are you talking about? Setting aside unanswerable nonsense philosophical questions, we have a damn good idea what reality is made of.

y4mi 7y ago
In math, we actually know and can prove beyond all doubt something to be true. The same can't be said about the reality as we can never be sure that we've accounted for all variables and filled them correctly. This applies to everything in physics, even something as basic as "how long will this Apple take to fall to the ground"... You can make an estimate and then let reality take it's course. And when you're finally looking at the numbers it might've been correct down to milliseconds... But there is going to be some drift in math, it's gonna be one exact point, as everything is accounted for. In reality, the Apple is not going to land at exactly the same time, as you forgot to include something like the the current air pressure or a comet vaporizing the planet in flight!
- crimsonalucard 7y ago
  This is true. Not only is it impossible to prove anything in science and therefore reality, but we also view things through a blurry lens. Results arrive with a limited amount of significant figures or in the form of a statistic. Technically, although things cannot be proven in science, things can actually be disproven in science, but due to the blurry lens we are unable to fully do so. Instead science is largely about establishing correlations and to an even harder extent trying to give a blurry statistic to causation. Do note that for math, you can prove things but two things must be assumed. The first assumption is that all axioms related to the proof are true. The second assumption you make is that logic as we know it is true and always consistent regardless of context. There is one more interesting thing regarding science. Because nothing can be proven in science and because all science is, is establishing correlations, one thing that we assume is true in the real world is probability. In math the axioms of probability are basically arbitrary ratios assigned to sets with the theorems blossoming outward from different compositions of these sets and ratios. The theory itself has nothing to do with random events. So literally the theory of probability is just about sets and an associated rational number representing a portion of that set. If we had a 6 sided dice and we rolled it billions of times the reason why the number 5 appears close to a 1/6 portion of all the results is a mystery. We literally assume this is the case and that the axioms of probability which are essentially just sets and ratios actually applies to random events and happenings. All other science is derived from this assumption.
paganel 7y ago
See y4mi’s reply. Also, we cannot account for about 70% or 80% of the material Universe (the one we presume has weight), we even found a fancy name for it, “dark matter”. This is pure mysticism, this is definitely not knowing what reality is made up of.

y4mi 7y ago

In math, we actually know and can prove beyond all doubt something to be true. The same can't be said about the reality as we can never be sure that we've accounted for all variables and filled them correctly. This applies to everything in physics, even something as basic as "how long will this Apple take to fall to the ground"... You can make an estimate and then let reality take it's course. And when you're finally looking at the numbers it might've been correct down to milliseconds... But there is going to be some drift in math, it's gonna be one exact point, as everything is accounted for. In reality, the Apple is not going to land at exactly the same time, as you forgot to include something like the the current air pressure or a comet vaporizing the planet in flight!

crimsonalucard 7y ago
This is true. Not only is it impossible to prove anything in science and therefore reality, but we also view things through a blurry lens. Results arrive with a limited amount of significant figures or in the form of a statistic. Technically, although things cannot be proven in science, things can actually be disproven in science, but due to the blurry lens we are unable to fully do so. Instead science is largely about establishing correlations and to an even harder extent trying to give a blurry statistic to causation. Do note that for math, you can prove things but two things must be assumed. The first assumption is that all axioms related to the proof are true. The second assumption you make is that logic as we know it is true and always consistent regardless of context. There is one more interesting thing regarding science. Because nothing can be proven in science and because all science is, is establishing correlations, one thing that we assume is true in the real world is probability. In math the axioms of probability are basically arbitrary ratios assigned to sets with the theorems blossoming outward from different compositions of these sets and ratios. The theory itself has nothing to do with random events. So literally the theory of probability is just about sets and an associated rational number representing a portion of that set. If we had a 6 sided dice and we rolled it billions of times the reason why the number 5 appears close to a 1/6 portion of all the results is a mystery. We literally assume this is the case and that the axioms of probability which are essentially just sets and ratios actually applies to random events and happenings. All other science is derived from this assumption.

paganel 7y ago

See y4mi’s reply. Also, we cannot account for about 70% or 80% of the material Universe (the one we presume has weight), we even found a fancy name for it, “dark matter”. This is pure mysticism, this is definitely not knowing what reality is made up of.