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Is swift a common language for kind of thing tensorflow is used for? Given that swift does not work on windows and Linux support is sub par, is this only becaus

by mrath 7y ago

Is swift a common language for kind of thing tensorflow is used for? Given that swift does not work on windows and Linux support is sub par, is this only because of Chris Lattner?

eklavya 7y ago
The way I see it. The technical points have been explained on their GitHub page. One might not agree with it. From an organisation's perspective it makes total sense. You need in house expertise and you need a free hand. Not many languages would have fit both of these things. I mean if it were you or me, wouldn't you pick what you are most comfortable with given it fit the constraints? Linux support for this can't be sub par since the whole stuff will run on linux like 99.99% of the time.
- bobajeff 7y ago
  Question if Swift works on Linux right now what are the chances that it also works on Windows's new built in Linux (WSL2)?
  - mdemare 7y ago
    If WSL2 allows access to the GPU, chances are good.
  - oscargrouch 7y ago
    I used swift on WSL1 and even compiled natively for Windows. But i guess the pure Windows ecosystem is rough on the edges right now, but doable. And in WSL(1) things have worked pretty the same as in Linux. Just download the packaged binary distributed on their site, and you are ready to go. (Oh, a note; its not the tensorflow branch, if is thats what you want)
FridgeSeal 7y ago
> Is swift a common language for kind of thing tensorflow is used for? Absolutely not. Julia would have been a far better fit.
rsfinn 7y ago
Swift support for Windows has apparently been making great strides lately; see, for example, <https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-windows/22458> https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-windows/22458>. They're not quite at the point of announcing "official" support yet, but the test suite was "effectively ... fully passing ... (pending patches)" as of April 1 of this year. Disclaimer: I don't use Windows but read the Swift development forums from time to time.

by mrath 7y ago

Is swift a common language for kind of thing tensorflow is used for? Given that swift does not work on windows and Linux support is sub par, is this only because of Chris Lattner?

eklavya 7y ago

The way I see it. The technical points have been explained on their GitHub page. One might not agree with it. From an organisation's perspective it makes total sense. You need in house expertise and you need a free hand. Not many languages would have fit both of these things. I mean if it were you or me, wouldn't you pick what you are most comfortable with given it fit the constraints? Linux support for this can't be sub par since the whole stuff will run on linux like 99.99% of the time.

bobajeff 7y ago
Question if Swift works on Linux right now what are the chances that it also works on Windows's new built in Linux (WSL2)?
- mdemare 7y ago
  If WSL2 allows access to the GPU, chances are good.
- oscargrouch 7y ago
  I used swift on WSL1 and even compiled natively for Windows. But i guess the pure Windows ecosystem is rough on the edges right now, but doable. And in WSL(1) things have worked pretty the same as in Linux. Just download the packaged binary distributed on their site, and you are ready to go. (Oh, a note; its not the tensorflow branch, if is thats what you want)

FridgeSeal 7y ago

> Is swift a common language for kind of thing tensorflow is used for? Absolutely not. Julia would have been a far better fit.

rsfinn 7y ago

Swift support for Windows has apparently been making great strides lately; see, for example, <https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-windows/22458> https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-windows/22458>. They're not quite at the point of announcing "official" support yet, but the test suite was "effectively ... fully passing ... (pending patches)" as of April 1 of this year. Disclaimer: I don't use Windows but read the Swift development forums from time to time.