"... What we found out is that if we can get coding in in the early grades and have a progression of difficulty over the tenure of somebody's high school years,

"... What we found out is that if we can get coding in in the early grades and have a progression of difficulty over the tenure of somebody's high school years, by the time you graduate kids like Liam, as an example of this, they're already writing apps that could be put on the App Store." FYI - Apple student discounts are only for college students. High School (and elementary school) kids get none. Source: bought a MacBook for my kids and they learnt to code with it. Talk is cheap...