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This is what gets lost in all the negativity. Lyft/Uber can slash their R&D by 90% and they wouldn't have much trouble running normal operations as minimal app-
by sytelus 7y ago
This is what gets lost in all the negativity. Lyft/Uber can slash their R&D by 90% and they wouldn't have much trouble running normal operations as minimal app-based cab companies. At 2,000 minimally required head count for running operations, they would probably average $2B in annual expenses. However suddenly they would be gloriously profitable with huge scalable upside and small fixed costs.
Here are some calculations:
Currently per mile cost of car (fuel, vehicle, insurance) to driver is about $0.50. Uber/Lyft typically charge $2.00 per mile so $1.50 goes to driver. Subtracting cost of car, driver pockets about $1 per mile which translates to $30/hr in urban areas.
One issue however is upper limit on the business. There is probably demand for 100,000 cabs each hour in US. That translates to may be 2-3 million miles per hour. if Uber can capture 30% of this, then their US revenue would be at about $4B. The international revenue perhaps adds another 2X so we are looking at total revenue of about $12B @ 30% market share. There is room to grow by almost 100% here in terms of market share so with $24B revenue and $2B of minimally needed fixed cost for operations, this seems fairly sustainable and astoundingly profitable business to me.
- ivalm 7y agoThis is a bad estimate for the cost per mile. Average depreciation cost per mile driven is ~ $0.6 [0]. Commercial insurance is ~ $0.2 Cost of gas per mile (in CA at 20 mpg, since most cars are non-hybrid) ~ $0.2 So cost of driving per mile is ~$1 to the driver So really driver makes ~$15/hour when it is busy, less most of the time [0] - https://newsroom.aaa.com/tag/driving-cost-per-mile/ https://newsroom.aaa.com/tag/driving-cost-per-mile/
- sytelus 7y agoThe cost of per mile was from AAA.
- ProfessorLayton 7y agoAAA cites 59¢/mile for an average sedan [1], further they cite the costs for average private insurance, which is inappropriate for running a commercial operation with uber/lyft. Additionally the average occupancy for an uber/lyft is much higher than typical privately used cars. Adding hundreds of pounds of passenger weight for a shared ride will yield below average MPG on a typical car, making expenses above average. [1] https://newsroom.aaa.com/tag/driving-cost-per-mile/ https://newsroom.aaa.com/tag/driving-cost-per-mile/