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> vegetables like avocados Avocados are a fruit...

ravenstine 7y ago
"Vegetable" isn't a botanical word, but it's culinary. The term "fruit" is both botanical and culinary. A fruit can be considered a vegetable or a culinary "fruit".
- timdiggerm 7y ago
  Yes, but that's not relevant here. Culinarily, they are not a fruit either.
  - ravenstine 7y ago
    I never said they're a culinary fruit... check my last sentence again.
49531 7y ago
If we're being pedantic here, it's botanically a fruit, but botanical fruits that we interact with in common parlance as vegetables are often considered vegetables legally. At least in the USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden
- taejo 7y ago
  Vegetable in a botanical sense just means "plant", so even if you for some reason insist on using technical terms in non-technical discussions, avocados are still vegetables.
  - ravenstine 7y ago
    > Vegetable in a botanical sense just means "plant" No, it doesn't, and it's not a word used in botany. Vegetable isn't commonly used to refer to all plants as a whole, but parts of plants consumed for food. The word "vegetation" has more botanical history to it, but even that term has been long superseded by the word "flora".
  - 49531 7y ago
    True, vegetable is mostly a culinary classification.
taejo 7y ago
Correct. Also, avocados are vegetables: > 2. A plant raised for some edible part of it, such as the leaves, roots, fruit or flowers, but excluding any plant considered to be a fruit, grain, or spice in the culinary sense. > 3. The edible part of such a plant. The culinary sense of fruit referred to above is: > a sweet, edible part of a plant that resembles seed-bearing fruit, even if it does not develop from a floral ovary Note that avocados are not sweet, so they are not fruit in the culinary sense, and therefore are vegetables in the culinary sense.
inscionent 7y ago
I love the argument about labels in the comments of an article that is arguing about labels.

"Vegetable" isn't a botanical word, but it's culinary. The term "fruit" is both botanical and culinary. A fruit can be considered a vegetable or a culinary "fruit".

timdiggerm 7y ago
Yes, but that's not relevant here. Culinarily, they are not a fruit either.
- ravenstine 7y ago
  I never said they're a culinary fruit... check my last sentence again.

49531 7y ago

If we're being pedantic here, it's botanically a fruit, but botanical fruits that we interact with in common parlance as vegetables are often considered vegetables legally. At least in the USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_v._Hedden

taejo 7y ago
Vegetable in a botanical sense just means "plant", so even if you for some reason insist on using technical terms in non-technical discussions, avocados are still vegetables.
- ravenstine 7y ago
  > Vegetable in a botanical sense just means "plant" No, it doesn't, and it's not a word used in botany. Vegetable isn't commonly used to refer to all plants as a whole, but parts of plants consumed for food. The word "vegetation" has more botanical history to it, but even that term has been long superseded by the word "flora".
- 49531 7y ago
  True, vegetable is mostly a culinary classification.

taejo 7y ago

Correct. Also, avocados are vegetables: > 2. A plant raised for some edible part of it, such as the leaves, roots, fruit or flowers, but excluding any plant considered to be a fruit, grain, or spice in the culinary sense. > 3. The edible part of such a plant. The culinary sense of fruit referred to above is: > a sweet, edible part of a plant that resembles seed-bearing fruit, even if it does not develop from a floral ovary Note that avocados are not sweet, so they are not fruit in the culinary sense, and therefore are vegetables in the culinary sense.

inscionent 7y ago

I love the argument about labels in the comments of an article that is arguing about labels.