And thru end up using clunky told like code gen to make up for the lack of generics and for mocking purposes. the resulting coffee ends up being a mess, and iro

And thru end up using clunky told like code gen to make up for the lack of generics and for mocking purposes. the resulting coffee ends up being a mess, and ironically, introduces more layers of abstraction (unnecessary interfaces just for the sake of mocking) than code bases in Java and C#