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If there's anything to be learned from Nest, I think it would be interesting to se a full open source stack for things like Nest as well as Google Home / Alexa.

If there's anything to be learned from Nest, I think it would be interesting to se a full open source stack for things like Nest as well as Google Home / Alexa. If the NLP is right, the actual functionality is not hard to replicated means that third party integrations can be easily added/customized. Then you also eliminate the always on problem with everything going through your own servers. What I'm imagining (all open source): - Hardware Speaker/Microphone device (can be multiple developed of course on one standard) - Device OS based on Linux - NLP engine - Easy Plug and Play Server Box - Library / Packages for third party integrations (say Gmail et al, Spotify, Amazon, Weather.com) - An open app store type system where all of these "skills" can actually be used with any device instead of only existing in one ecosystem Does something like this already exist? It would obviously take more technical know how, but I think done right it could really be a big step towards keeping the usefulness of assistants and smart home devices while building in control and security both in lasting time and attacks.

smashah 7y ago
Home assistant
- adjkant 7y ago
  Thank you! It looks like a good start but certainly lacks some of the features and I'd of course expect a more user friendly version will eventually be introduced as it matures. Nice to see people are working on it!
  - smashah 7y ago
    It's quite extensive and great to work with. What features are you looking for that might be missing?
    - adjkant 7y ago
      There's more details in other subthreads but basically the voice control and speaker aspect. i may just end up spending some time trying to build on these to make an end to end solution myself (if I ever find the time that is).
pault 7y ago
There's home assistant: https://www.home-assistant.io/ https://www.home-assistant.io/ And mozilla web things: https://iot.mozilla.org/ https://iot.mozilla.org/ Plenty of options these days. I have high hopes for web things to become the "app store" that you mention.
- adjkant 7y ago
  Forgive my laziness, but how does this play with third parties and where is it on the NLP/hardware front? As much as I love the idea of going open source, the practicalities right now is using Google/Spotify/Weather/Netflix via voice control is the majority of my use cases an I see now I'm talking less smart home and more smart assistant, so I guess this is verging off a bit from Nest's functionality. WebThings looks really good on first glance - the API seems well designed and intuitive and the gateway idea is exactly what I wanted. It seems like the NLP/Speaker to Gateway connection is needed still. I really hope this also becomes something third parties support. I'm concerned that even if all of these pieces come together, Netflix/Spotify just say "lol no we're gonna only support Amazon/Google". Appreciate the links!
  - pault 7y ago
    Check out the Respeaker Core v2. Right now there isn't much in the way of an end to end solution, but there are a ton of options to roll your own. And really, rolling your own is the only way to ensure privacy and longevity anyway.

smashah 7y ago

Home assistant

adjkant 7y ago
Thank you! It looks like a good start but certainly lacks some of the features and I'd of course expect a more user friendly version will eventually be introduced as it matures. Nice to see people are working on it!
- smashah 7y ago
  It's quite extensive and great to work with. What features are you looking for that might be missing?
  - adjkant 7y ago
    There's more details in other subthreads but basically the voice control and speaker aspect. i may just end up spending some time trying to build on these to make an end to end solution myself (if I ever find the time that is).

pault 7y ago

There's home assistant: https://www.home-assistant.io/ https://www.home-assistant.io/ And mozilla web things: https://iot.mozilla.org/ https://iot.mozilla.org/ Plenty of options these days. I have high hopes for web things to become the "app store" that you mention.

adjkant 7y ago
Forgive my laziness, but how does this play with third parties and where is it on the NLP/hardware front? As much as I love the idea of going open source, the practicalities right now is using Google/Spotify/Weather/Netflix via voice control is the majority of my use cases an I see now I'm talking less smart home and more smart assistant, so I guess this is verging off a bit from Nest's functionality. WebThings looks really good on first glance - the API seems well designed and intuitive and the gateway idea is exactly what I wanted. It seems like the NLP/Speaker to Gateway connection is needed still. I really hope this also becomes something third parties support. I'm concerned that even if all of these pieces come together, Netflix/Spotify just say "lol no we're gonna only support Amazon/Google". Appreciate the links!
- pault 7y ago
  Check out the Respeaker Core v2. Right now there isn't much in the way of an end to end solution, but there are a ton of options to roll your own. And really, rolling your own is the only way to ensure privacy and longevity anyway.