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> I like your choice of words "lie" as if there is some moral dilemma with framing a hypothetical situation to evaluate the response of a potentially critical p
by jules 16y ago
> I like your choice of words "lie" as if there is some moral dilemma with framing a hypothetical situation to evaluate the response of a potentially critical piece of infrastructure. As well, for the record, before you jump to conclusions with charged and disingenuous position slanting words like "lie" It just so happens that that single purchase was going to be used to teach my daughter video production. I took it as an opportunity to feel the vendor out pre-purchase.
Don't blame him for using the word "lie" when you clearly phrased it like lying:
> Funny story, I was evaluating some screen capture software for OSX not too long ago for a client of mine. I was building a web app for them and part of the work flow for their content was screen capture. Anyway, I emailed a company that had a reputable product and basically told them that I had no need for the pro version, would not be using the pro version for any commercial work but that I would like to use the pro version to teach my daughter about video editing. I then asked if they would consider selling me the pro version at the basic software packages rate. I framed the story in this fashion for several reasons.
- kls 16y agoDon't blame him for using the word "lie" when you clearly phrased it like lying basically told them I framed the story in this fashion for several reasons I framed the story, is not an admission of lying there where motives beyond the initial purchase, but even if those motives did not exist I intended to purchase software for my daughter, only using a selective portion of my total intent to purchase was in no way lying and in no way disingenuous. I blame him for using the word lie because it is a charged word, that should not be used unless you are certain of the factualness of ones allegations. Calling someone a liar is pretty disingenuous and was done so in this case as a character attack to further his position in his rebuttal. Not as a legitimate response to a legitimate comment.
- jonknee 16y agoYou sound like a toxic customer.
- kls 16y agoMan this place has become Slashdot. I mean was that sniping pop shot well though out? Or was it just a quick personal attack for karma? Seriously I want to know, I shared a pretty detailed story, like it or not, agree with my conclusions or not, it was a story that I thought long and hard about to add some conversation to HN. I mean do I really sound like a toxic customer or was that just a pop shot. In the course of one thread I have been called a lair, stupid, and now a toxic customer all on a site that state clearly in it's FAQ's to try to be civil. So I would really like to know your mind set in doing so, do you just not care about HN not being just another "mines bigger" contest. Or in all of this did you glean some insight that you can boil me down to a one liner?
- jonknee 16y agoYou really sound like a toxic customer.
- kls 16y agoThe content of you post does not bother me if that is your intent. What does bother me is the upvotes you recive. It is sad to see the decline of a great site so enshrined in a single line post. The active approval of your post, by other members, just becase they dont agree with my position on the subject, is sadning to say the least. Your comment is devoid of quality and only serves to try and infuriate another member.its active acceptance is indicitive of the decline so many members complain about.
- jules 16y agoYou posted a comment arguing that "Asking for a discount" is not a good filter, because it would have filtered out you. You even sound a bit smug like "hah they failed my test, how stupid of them to not give me a discount, now they lost me as a customer". Jonkee is just saying that that sounds like the customer you'd want to filter out, and HN seems to agree.
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