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"her lawyers reportedly asked that she be confined at home due to medical issues, but the judge said US Marshals would address her care needs." That is a terri

"her lawyers reportedly asked that she be confined at home due to medical issues, but the judge said US Marshals would address her care needs." That is a terrifying sentence to read after having learned about the medical care provided (or not provided...) in US prisons. It almost reads to me as if they planned on killing her.

fwip 7y ago
If you want even more evidence, look up her medical treatment before her sentence was commuted. They nearly succeeded at killing her that time.
rcw4256 7y ago
They've already failed to provide necessary post-surgery care, resulting in potentially permanent, intractable medical complications, according to this declaration filed three days ago while she was still imprisoned: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.405498/gov.uscourts.vaed.405498.29.1.pdf https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.405498... (paragraph 13)
bonniemuffin 7y ago
The state of medical care in US prisons is really horrifying. Like this one from four days ago, in which a mentally ill woman gave birth alone in her cell. https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/us/woman-gives-birth-jail-cell-broward-florida/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/us/woman-gives-birth-jail-cel...
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- Shivetya 7y ago
  there isn't much US government managed health care that is worth a damn, just ask veterans or Indians on reservations. when people outside the country keep lamenting the US doesn't have government provided healthcare they need to realize the examples we have are both horrible and many doubt that they have the capacity to not inflict the same shoddy care on the current system. Most jails and prison care is the same because it is all government managed. while the private jails, which are a very small minority, have problems they are held to higher standard that government does not apply to itself. the prison/jail system is just a money machine for the sheriff and police unions of the country and therefor actively supported by the politicians they support/control. California had to be compelled by the Federal Courts just to reduce overcrowding and provide better health care
  - erentz 7y ago
    > there isn't much US government managed health care that is worth a damn, just ask veterans This seems to be incorrect. The VA has problems that should be addressed, but it's still preferable to most veterans than any alternative, which is why they pushed back against Medicare for All's initial proposal to replace the VA with Medicare. Now it retains the VA. We've been in a bunch of silly wars for 18 years now producing a constant flow of new veterans, the VA needs beefing up to deal with that. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths-about-va-health-care/2018/04/13/e5834d1e-3d9a-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.19d12e5691b4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths... > when people outside the country keep lamenting the US doesn't have government provided healthcare they need to realize the examples we have are both horrible and many doubt that they have the capacity to not inflict the same shoddy care on the current system. Most people are "lamenting" that the USA has, what is it now, 30 million people without access to health care? And has 30-40k deaths every year due to lack of access. The expectation is for universal coverage. Not coverage based on circumstance or wealth. Most people on Medicare defend it regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum. It should be noted that Medicare isn't "government managed health care" it's a payer to private health care providers. The health care providers are still private and privately run, there's no government hospital and doctors don't work for the government. At the moment the popular opinion in the US is not asking for the government to take over all health care management in that way, but instead to provide everybody with access to healthcare by expanding the popular Medicare program to everyone.

fwip 7y ago

If you want even more evidence, look up her medical treatment before her sentence was commuted. They nearly succeeded at killing her that time.

rcw4256 7y ago

They've already failed to provide necessary post-surgery care, resulting in potentially permanent, intractable medical complications, according to this declaration filed three days ago while she was still imprisoned: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.405498/gov.uscourts.vaed.405498.29.1.pdf https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.405498... (paragraph 13)

bonniemuffin 7y ago

The state of medical care in US prisons is really horrifying. Like this one from four days ago, in which a mentally ill woman gave birth alone in her cell. https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/us/woman-gives-birth-jail-cell-broward-florida/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/us/woman-gives-birth-jail-cel...

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Shivetya 7y ago
there isn't much US government managed health care that is worth a damn, just ask veterans or Indians on reservations. when people outside the country keep lamenting the US doesn't have government provided healthcare they need to realize the examples we have are both horrible and many doubt that they have the capacity to not inflict the same shoddy care on the current system. Most jails and prison care is the same because it is all government managed. while the private jails, which are a very small minority, have problems they are held to higher standard that government does not apply to itself. the prison/jail system is just a money machine for the sheriff and police unions of the country and therefor actively supported by the politicians they support/control. California had to be compelled by the Federal Courts just to reduce overcrowding and provide better health care
- erentz 7y ago
  > there isn't much US government managed health care that is worth a damn, just ask veterans This seems to be incorrect. The VA has problems that should be addressed, but it's still preferable to most veterans than any alternative, which is why they pushed back against Medicare for All's initial proposal to replace the VA with Medicare. Now it retains the VA. We've been in a bunch of silly wars for 18 years now producing a constant flow of new veterans, the VA needs beefing up to deal with that. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths-about-va-health-care/2018/04/13/e5834d1e-3d9a-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.19d12e5691b4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths... > when people outside the country keep lamenting the US doesn't have government provided healthcare they need to realize the examples we have are both horrible and many doubt that they have the capacity to not inflict the same shoddy care on the current system. Most people are "lamenting" that the USA has, what is it now, 30 million people without access to health care? And has 30-40k deaths every year due to lack of access. The expectation is for universal coverage. Not coverage based on circumstance or wealth. Most people on Medicare defend it regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum. It should be noted that Medicare isn't "government managed health care" it's a payer to private health care providers. The health care providers are still private and privately run, there's no government hospital and doctors don't work for the government. At the moment the popular opinion in the US is not asking for the government to take over all health care management in that way, but instead to provide everybody with access to healthcare by expanding the popular Medicare program to everyone.