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Unlike Bezos, Elon Musk actually gets things done. Bezos still hasn't done anything that SpaceShipOne didn't do in 2004 (and that carried people, unlike their c

Unlike Bezos, Elon Musk actually gets things done. Bezos still hasn't done anything that SpaceShipOne didn't do in 2004 (and that carried people, unlike their current rocket). Their little hopper rocket is leagues away from a proper orbital vehicle. Bezos hasn't given any timelines for New Glenn (their first orbital rocket). People give way too much praise to Bezos. That's not to mention all the blatant patent trolling and lobbying that Blue Origin/Bezos is engaged in which constantly tries to hinder SpaceX. (Ex: Trying to patent landing on a barge to stop SpaceX doing it. Ex: Successfully lobbying several congresspeople to delay down selection of launch vehicles for military launches (but failed to delay it).) Blue Origin is big on talk and little on action.

partingshots 8y ago
Do you have any more reading material on the political lobbying Bezos is having Blue Origin do? That sounds quite interesting.
tracer4201 8y ago
>Unlike Bezos, Elon Musk actually gets things done. As a betting gal, I disagree. source: $2MM investment in Amazon from back in 2014 has performed extremely well. Stock price isn’t exactly a golden metric, but Bezos knows how and what to prioritize and when to deliver. I would trust Bezos over Elon Musk with real money any day. Your post makes it appear as if Bezos is devoting the majority of his time to one specific company or venture, and therefore not being the industry leader is some sort of failure. That’s extremely short sighted from my perspective. The little hopper rocket you described is a better investment from my perspective than anything Musk touches. Hell, if all Bezos had was a literal tin can and merely a promise of using material from that tin can as part of a lunar lander 10 years out, I would still put more faith in Bezos. My only experience with Tesla is with purchasing a Model S, which was horrible. I no longer have that vehicle. Good riddance.
- killjoywashere 8y ago
  > I no longer have that vehicle. Fascinating. As a potential Tesla buyer, would you care to share your experience? Email welcome.
- icelancer 8y ago
  Amazon is not Blue Origin. SpaceX is not Tesla. The Musk/Bezos comparison is regarding spaceflight. And in that regard: >> Blue Origin is big on talk and little on action. The parent comment is definitely correct. Unless you mean patent trolling. Then Bezos has Musk crushed.
- sumedh 8y ago
  Not sure if you are serious or just trolling, there is really no reason to bring up Amazon or Tesla in this conversation.
godelski 8y ago
> Blue Origin is big on talk and little on action. I'm a little surprised on this. I see Blue Origin as being small on talk. They have been mostly operating in stealth mode. Public isn't really that aware of them, at least no where near the level of SpaceX. They only get publicity when they meet a milestone. Which the thing is that they haven't promised much, but met those milestones on time. > Bezos hasn't given any timelines for New Glenn (their first orbital rocket) 2021[0] [0] https://www.geekwire.com/2018/blue-origin-resets-schedule-first-crew-space-2019-first-orbital-launch-2021/ https://www.geekwire.com/2018/blue-origin-resets-schedule-fi...
nickik 8y ago
> Bezos still hasn't done anything that SpaceShipOne didn't do in 2004 This is such absurdly reductionist take. Its a whole different level, just having something that can reach space compared to a reliable reusable rocket that can fly real costumers. There is a reason SpaceShipOne was never used in production, its a tech demo. > Bezos hasn't given any timelines for New Glenn (their first orbital rocket). People give way too much praise to Bezos. They do have a timeline and they have actual costumers already signed. And furthermore we have seen highly advanced engines, the BE-4 tested. That is a huge achievement. > People give way too much praise to Bezos. You are giving way to little. Do you know how few advanced rocket engines like that have been designed in the US? Not since the Space Shuttle. It might also very likely be the first ever methane engine to reach orbit.

partingshots 8y ago

Do you have any more reading material on the political lobbying Bezos is having Blue Origin do? That sounds quite interesting.

tracer4201 8y ago

>Unlike Bezos, Elon Musk actually gets things done. As a betting gal, I disagree. source: $2MM investment in Amazon from back in 2014 has performed extremely well. Stock price isn’t exactly a golden metric, but Bezos knows how and what to prioritize and when to deliver. I would trust Bezos over Elon Musk with real money any day. Your post makes it appear as if Bezos is devoting the majority of his time to one specific company or venture, and therefore not being the industry leader is some sort of failure. That’s extremely short sighted from my perspective. The little hopper rocket you described is a better investment from my perspective than anything Musk touches. Hell, if all Bezos had was a literal tin can and merely a promise of using material from that tin can as part of a lunar lander 10 years out, I would still put more faith in Bezos. My only experience with Tesla is with purchasing a Model S, which was horrible. I no longer have that vehicle. Good riddance.

killjoywashere 8y ago
> I no longer have that vehicle. Fascinating. As a potential Tesla buyer, would you care to share your experience? Email welcome.
icelancer 8y ago
Amazon is not Blue Origin. SpaceX is not Tesla. The Musk/Bezos comparison is regarding spaceflight. And in that regard: >> Blue Origin is big on talk and little on action. The parent comment is definitely correct. Unless you mean patent trolling. Then Bezos has Musk crushed.
sumedh 8y ago
Not sure if you are serious or just trolling, there is really no reason to bring up Amazon or Tesla in this conversation.

godelski 8y ago

> Blue Origin is big on talk and little on action. I'm a little surprised on this. I see Blue Origin as being small on talk. They have been mostly operating in stealth mode. Public isn't really that aware of them, at least no where near the level of SpaceX. They only get publicity when they meet a milestone. Which the thing is that they haven't promised much, but met those milestones on time. > Bezos hasn't given any timelines for New Glenn (their first orbital rocket) 2021[0] [0] https://www.geekwire.com/2018/blue-origin-resets-schedule-first-crew-space-2019-first-orbital-launch-2021/ https://www.geekwire.com/2018/blue-origin-resets-schedule-fi...

nickik 8y ago

> Bezos still hasn't done anything that SpaceShipOne didn't do in 2004 This is such absurdly reductionist take. Its a whole different level, just having something that can reach space compared to a reliable reusable rocket that can fly real costumers. There is a reason SpaceShipOne was never used in production, its a tech demo. > Bezos hasn't given any timelines for New Glenn (their first orbital rocket). People give way too much praise to Bezos. They do have a timeline and they have actual costumers already signed. And furthermore we have seen highly advanced engines, the BE-4 tested. That is a huge achievement. > People give way too much praise to Bezos. You are giving way to little. Do you know how few advanced rocket engines like that have been designed in the US? Not since the Space Shuttle. It might also very likely be the first ever methane engine to reach orbit.