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Typical Red Hat... takes over CentOS and now they are going to take their sweet time to update it and we'll end up with a bunch of EL distros again because Red
by techntoke 7y ago
Typical Red Hat... takes over CentOS and now they are going to take their sweet time to update it and we'll end up with a bunch of EL distros again because Red Hat can't automate anything. It really should be built the same day as RHEL. I don't know anyone who uses RHEL anymore though because they are so antiquated.
- type0 7y agoOpensuse and suse do their work almost in sync, now that is so fluent that you could convert existing opensuse install into SLES. I just can't understand why RH don't wan't more customers coming from CentOS.
- yjftsjthsd-h 7y agoYou can convert RHEL<->CentOS just like that, too. Edit to clarify: RHEL and CentOS are binary/ABI compatible to the point where you can switch repositories, overwrite a couple key packages, and now you have the other system.
- techntoke 7y agoSo much so that it will take them weeks, if not months, to build it.
- gtirloni 7y agoConverting "existing opensuse install" means converting a server from CentOS to RHEL. That is done in minutes. Getting the source code for RHEL, making the necessary modifications and releasing it as CentOS is a whole different thing.
- techntoke 7y agoHow is it different? It is literally compiling a bunch of packages and creating an ISO or install method. You can do this yourself and store the packages in a searchable repo like most other Linux distros. Void was created and is well maintained by very few people, and so was Alpine when it started. With a little automation this should have been done at the same time RHEL was released.
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- gerdesas 7y agoIt's easy to whine; it's far harder to do. If it weren't you'd whine less and do more.
- techntoke 7y agoI do plenty. I contribute to many packages for other Linux distros. Yes it is hard with RHEL cause their package manager is still really terrible. Checkout Arch and Alpine though, or Void for good package management.
- gerdesas 7y agoIt's a package manager. It works the same as all other package managers. Could you, perhaps, come up with a legitimate argument instead of your poor attempt at trolling?
- dang 7y agoPlease don't be rude or uncivil on HN, regardless of what you're responding to. It's against the site guidelines and will eventually get you banned here. Would you mind reviewing them? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- heybrendan 7y agoThe last part of your comment seems quite absurd. Simply put, just because you may not know of anyone in your immediate professional or social circles using RHEL, does not mean it's not extremely popular in the capital E enterprise. AFAICT, RHEL is the Linux distribution of choice in most enterprise IT organizations /because/ of it's commitment to long-term support, stability, ABI compatibility, programs like EUS, and so forth--the list goes on.
- techntoke 7y agoAll the very large enterprises I've worked for were so happy to move away from RHEL due to being cumbersome, old, and poor quality.
- freedomben 7y agoCentOS took weeks last time for Cent 7, and also Cent 6. Nothing has changed since Red Hat took over. Also, I do find your lack of respect and gratitude for Red Hat for releasing all their stuff fully open source and allowing projects like CentOS to flourish despite the cannibalization quite distasteful. Not that you care what I think, but it definitely smacks of entitlement mentality.
- techntoke 7y agoLack of respect is RHEL itself. Linux is doing just fine without it and flourishing. They are just a sales organization selling something old and dying to make a little more profit. RHEL is like the VMware of Linux distros.