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The police are on NextDoor here, too, but their posts are chiefly "Critical Incident Report," which means they shot someone again. The response is consistently

The police are on NextDoor here, too, but their posts are chiefly "Critical Incident Report," which means they shot someone again. The response is consistently and overwhelmingly "good job, thank you for staying safe." I never would have predicted this as a consequence of social media.

throwawaysea 7y ago
Have you considered that many people actually appreciate having police enforce laws and recognize that they by and large do their job well? I don't think it is that out of place.
- mikeash 7y ago
  Shooting someone is never a good outcome.
  - throwawaysea 7y ago
    Never? I disagree. Recently in Seattle there was an incident where a gunman was sitting in a car, ostensibly pinned down. On Twitter, posts informed residents that the suspect was in a standoff with the police, and made clear where that area was. Residents assumed that other surrounding neighborhoods that were not cordoned off were safe and continued about their business. The police who were present waited through this initial standoff, trying to avoid shooting the suspect, due to potential political fallout and the undeserved scrutiny/criticism they have received in the past when doing their jobs. This gunman ended up suddenly flooring the car to try and get away, and ended up crashing into another car elsewhere, killing the other driver. Shooting the suspect when he was pinned down and not cooperating would have absolutely been the correct outcome and would have saved an innocent life. Article on the above incident: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-dead-2-injured-apparent-random-shooting-car-crash-seattle-n988261 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-dead-2-injured-appare...
    - mikeash 7y ago
      There are times when it’s the least bad outcome. It’s never a good outcome.
- ultrarunner 7y ago
  For context I live near to where the Daniel Shaver incident took place. Many of these look troubling for several reasons. I am very much convinced that the people expressing support for the violence do so in part because it aligns with their sense of a just society, but I am not so sure that alignment is as obvious as it maybe have appeared in the past. The allusions to racism (the real kind, i.e. “what race was he; ahh, then he had it coming”) only add to my doubt.

throwawaysea 7y ago

Have you considered that many people actually appreciate having police enforce laws and recognize that they by and large do their job well? I don't think it is that out of place.

mikeash 7y ago
Shooting someone is never a good outcome.
- throwawaysea 7y ago
  Never? I disagree. Recently in Seattle there was an incident where a gunman was sitting in a car, ostensibly pinned down. On Twitter, posts informed residents that the suspect was in a standoff with the police, and made clear where that area was. Residents assumed that other surrounding neighborhoods that were not cordoned off were safe and continued about their business. The police who were present waited through this initial standoff, trying to avoid shooting the suspect, due to potential political fallout and the undeserved scrutiny/criticism they have received in the past when doing their jobs. This gunman ended up suddenly flooring the car to try and get away, and ended up crashing into another car elsewhere, killing the other driver. Shooting the suspect when he was pinned down and not cooperating would have absolutely been the correct outcome and would have saved an innocent life. Article on the above incident: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-dead-2-injured-apparent-random-shooting-car-crash-seattle-n988261 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-dead-2-injured-appare...
  - mikeash 7y ago
    There are times when it’s the least bad outcome. It’s never a good outcome.
ultrarunner 7y ago
For context I live near to where the Daniel Shaver incident took place. Many of these look troubling for several reasons. I am very much convinced that the people expressing support for the violence do so in part because it aligns with their sense of a just society, but I am not so sure that alignment is as obvious as it maybe have appeared in the past. The allusions to racism (the real kind, i.e. “what race was he; ahh, then he had it coming”) only add to my doubt.