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It is bit surprising that they do not offer Java UBI image, considering that RH is one of the biggest Java vendors. Instead they are offering dotnet images of a

by zokier 8y ago

It is bit surprising that they do not offer Java UBI image, considering that RH is one of the biggest Java vendors. Instead they are offering dotnet images of all things.

derkoe 8y ago
Yes that's kind of strange. That's why I've created one for OpenJDK 8 and 11 yesterday https://hub.docker.com/r/ubi8/openjdk https://hub.docker.com/r/ubi8/openjdk
ChuckMcM 8y ago
Unless you consider ancillary information like, IBM owns Redhat and hates Oracle, and Oracle has decided to extract money for anything Java + Enterprise, and UBI is targeted for Enterprise customers. When you consider that you realize that adding a Java UBI image would just set them up for a fight with Oracle and delay their ability to get moving with UBI.
- chrisseaton 8y ago
  IBM have their own JVM implementation - they could ship that. Or ship their own build of the OpenJDK like many people do.
- xorcist 8y ago
  Red Hat already distributes Java in the form of openjdk. Surely the packaging format is irrelevant?
- justincormack 8y ago
  IBM does not yet own RedHat, the deal will close in another couple of months. IBM cannot influence anything RedHat does yet.
  - ChuckMcM 8y ago
    I actually see this as another reason to stay below the 'lawsuit radar.' A quick search doesn't seem to turn up anything that looks like a showstopper for the acquisition so presumably while it isn't "done" it is likely to complete, would you agree?
- soneil 8y ago
  If you consider news like https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/leadership-openjdk-8-and-openjdk-11-transitions-red-hat https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/leadership-op... .. it doesn't seem they're hugely afraid of openjdk
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Ah, I understand that former Sun employees have a sword to fight with Oracle, but no one else, besides a timid IBM offer, was that interested into buying Sun assets. Additionally IBM, Red-Hat and Oracle, collaborate on OpenJDK development and are the few set of companies that actually contribute new language features, with Oracle still having like 90% of contributions.
fatherlinnux 8y ago
We are working on it. We provide the openjdk package in UBI now, you can build a container image from the base. I plan on publishing a blog entry soon, explaining how. Also, we are working on releasing a pre-built image.
jmtd 8y ago
openjdk 11 rhel8 image for openshift shipped yesterday
bmaupin 8y ago
Java is available for installation from the base UBI image: $ docker run --rm registry.access.redhat.com/ubi8/ubi yum search openjdk java-11-openjdk.x86_64 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11 java-1.8.0-openjdk.x86_64 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment 8 java-11-openjdk-devel.x86_64 : OpenJDK Development Environment 11 java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel.x86_64 : OpenJDK Development Environment 8

by zokier 8y ago

It is bit surprising that they do not offer Java UBI image, considering that RH is one of the biggest Java vendors. Instead they are offering dotnet images of all things.

derkoe 8y ago

Yes that's kind of strange. That's why I've created one for OpenJDK 8 and 11 yesterday https://hub.docker.com/r/ubi8/openjdk https://hub.docker.com/r/ubi8/openjdk

ChuckMcM 8y ago

Unless you consider ancillary information like, IBM owns Redhat and hates Oracle, and Oracle has decided to extract money for anything Java + Enterprise, and UBI is targeted for Enterprise customers. When you consider that you realize that adding a Java UBI image would just set them up for a fight with Oracle and delay their ability to get moving with UBI.

chrisseaton 8y ago
IBM have their own JVM implementation - they could ship that. Or ship their own build of the OpenJDK like many people do.
xorcist 8y ago
Red Hat already distributes Java in the form of openjdk. Surely the packaging format is irrelevant?
justincormack 8y ago
IBM does not yet own RedHat, the deal will close in another couple of months. IBM cannot influence anything RedHat does yet.
- ChuckMcM 8y ago
  I actually see this as another reason to stay below the 'lawsuit radar.' A quick search doesn't seem to turn up anything that looks like a showstopper for the acquisition so presumably while it isn't "done" it is likely to complete, would you agree?
soneil 8y ago
If you consider news like https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/leadership-openjdk-8-and-openjdk-11-transitions-red-hat https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/leadership-op... .. it doesn't seem they're hugely afraid of openjdk
pjmlp 8y ago
Ah, I understand that former Sun employees have a sword to fight with Oracle, but no one else, besides a timid IBM offer, was that interested into buying Sun assets. Additionally IBM, Red-Hat and Oracle, collaborate on OpenJDK development and are the few set of companies that actually contribute new language features, with Oracle still having like 90% of contributions.

fatherlinnux 8y ago

We are working on it. We provide the openjdk package in UBI now, you can build a container image from the base. I plan on publishing a blog entry soon, explaining how. Also, we are working on releasing a pre-built image.

jmtd 8y ago

openjdk 11 rhel8 image for openshift shipped yesterday

bmaupin 8y ago

Java is available for installation from the base UBI image: $ docker run --rm registry.access.redhat.com/ubi8/ubi yum search openjdk java-11-openjdk.x86_64 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11 java-1.8.0-openjdk.x86_64 : OpenJDK Runtime Environment 8 java-11-openjdk-devel.x86_64 : OpenJDK Development Environment 11 java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel.x86_64 : OpenJDK Development Environment 8