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You may not be on Facebook but you can bet your friends or family have shared your contact info with them. And even if that exposure is limited, you can bet the

by uptown 7y ago

You may not be on Facebook but you can bet your friends or family have shared your contact info with them. And even if that exposure is limited, you can bet they’ve got a shadow profile of you.

kantos2 7y ago
So what?
- shakna 7y ago
  You can't break up with your stalker. If Facebook is building a data portfolio of you, which is highly likely, then you can't avoid them, which means the problems that arise from the practice still impact you, whether or not you want them to.
  - kantos2 7y ago
    Its not stalking, they just know about you, this is not harassment. If you think stalking is having information about your existence you have big problem man, mental one. >which means the problems that arise from the practice still impact you making up logic to suit your arguments doesn't means you have a point
    - decasteve 7y ago
      Having information about someone is fine. It's not stalking nor harassment when you're privy to their location, where they live and work, everyone they interact with, their conversation, every newspaper and article they read, and every purchase they make. But it's creepy especially if this information is collected surreptitiously. Why collect this information in the first place? It becomes harassment when this information is used to target someone. It is stalking if this information is used to follow you around. It is literally "cyberstalking" when it does. If someone is tracking you, they are stalking you. Every website owner who puts code from Google or Facebook is complicit in this tracking/stalking. When everywhere you go banners are being put in your face with messages tailored prod your fears based on what is known about you. When psychological tests are carried out en-masse [0], this is harassment. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/02/facebook-apologises-psychological-experiments-on-users https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/02/facebook-...
zaroth 7y ago
Facebook’s shadow profile of me does not even begin to hold a candle to Google’s shadow profile of me. And Google has been monetizing that profile for a lot longer than Facebook has.
- bjz_ 7y ago
  So while we're at it we should look at breaking up Google as well.
  - bluGill 7y ago
    I only use google for youtube and cloud print. I'd like to break up with the latter but I haven't figured out how (history says google will force this in the near future). YouTube has a lot of great content (mixed in with even more worthless garbage) that isn't elsewhere, so I can't figure out how I'd break up with it.
    - chupasaurus 7y ago
      On the other side, Google is tracking you on a lot of sites unless you use measures to counter it.
      - bluGill 7y ago
        True. I wish there was a good way to stop that.
        Xeanort 7y ago
        A good AdBlocker (like uBlock Origin) is usually enough. Also the tracking protection of Firefox is not bad.
        411mrc 7y ago
        A custom router can do this for all devices on your network. That is what I use.

by uptown 7y ago

You may not be on Facebook but you can bet your friends or family have shared your contact info with them. And even if that exposure is limited, you can bet they’ve got a shadow profile of you.

kantos2 7y ago

So what?

shakna 7y ago
You can't break up with your stalker. If Facebook is building a data portfolio of you, which is highly likely, then you can't avoid them, which means the problems that arise from the practice still impact you, whether or not you want them to.
- kantos2 7y ago
  Its not stalking, they just know about you, this is not harassment. If you think stalking is having information about your existence you have big problem man, mental one. >which means the problems that arise from the practice still impact you making up logic to suit your arguments doesn't means you have a point
  - decasteve 7y ago
    Having information about someone is fine. It's not stalking nor harassment when you're privy to their location, where they live and work, everyone they interact with, their conversation, every newspaper and article they read, and every purchase they make. But it's creepy especially if this information is collected surreptitiously. Why collect this information in the first place? It becomes harassment when this information is used to target someone. It is stalking if this information is used to follow you around. It is literally "cyberstalking" when it does. If someone is tracking you, they are stalking you. Every website owner who puts code from Google or Facebook is complicit in this tracking/stalking. When everywhere you go banners are being put in your face with messages tailored prod your fears based on what is known about you. When psychological tests are carried out en-masse [0], this is harassment. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/02/facebook-apologises-psychological-experiments-on-users https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/02/facebook-...

zaroth 7y ago

Facebook’s shadow profile of me does not even begin to hold a candle to Google’s shadow profile of me. And Google has been monetizing that profile for a lot longer than Facebook has.

bjz_ 7y ago
So while we're at it we should look at breaking up Google as well.
- bluGill 7y ago
  I only use google for youtube and cloud print. I'd like to break up with the latter but I haven't figured out how (history says google will force this in the near future). YouTube has a lot of great content (mixed in with even more worthless garbage) that isn't elsewhere, so I can't figure out how I'd break up with it.
  - chupasaurus 7y ago
    On the other side, Google is tracking you on a lot of sites unless you use measures to counter it.
    - bluGill 7y ago
      True. I wish there was a good way to stop that.
      - Xeanort 7y ago
        A good AdBlocker (like uBlock Origin) is usually enough. Also the tracking protection of Firefox is not bad.
      - 411mrc 7y ago
        A custom router can do this for all devices on your network. That is what I use.