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Not a matter of taking 8m2 for personal use but rather of eliminating 8m2 for green, parks, pavements. Adding friction for pedestrians with unnecessary traffic

by chewz 8y ago

Not a matter of taking 8m2 for personal use but rather of eliminating 8m2 for green, parks, pavements. Adding friction for pedestrians with unnecessary traffic lights etc. In a city bikes and public transport should be all you need. Cars do not belong in the city.

sergiosgc 8y ago
Of course the question is painted as competition for space use. It does not change my original reasoning.
saiya-jin 8y ago
Every single weekend I venture to the mountains. There is basically no connection at all with public transport to 95% of the places. Those that are take 3-5x as long to use. How should I carry all the equipment for climbing, skiing, camping, alpinism, paraglide etc through the city? But OK screw me, imagine pregnant couple, or couple with kids. Would you force them to use public transport with all the equipment required just to get out of city? Elderly? Disabled? Gotta love the folks who feel entitled to tell how whole planet should live, just so that it fits their narrow world view and specific (for me boring) city lifestyle
- chewz 8y ago
  > How should I carry all the equipment for climbing, skiing, camping, alpinism, paraglide etc through the city? Pay for taxi. or live someplace closer to the mountains. Or keep your car and your equipment somewhere else outside of the city. Why should society sponsor your outdoor interests? Aren't you feeling entitled to your personal convenience at the expense of others?
  - cr1895 8y ago
    >Cars do not belong in the city. >Pay for taxi Which is it?
    - saiya-jin 8y ago
      touche, thank you
    - sagichmal 7y ago
      The author obviously meant personal cars.
      - cr1895 7y ago
        That's not obvious to me.
FerretFred 7y ago
>In a city bikes and public transport should be all you need Agreed! And what better time to get rid of those diesel-belching, noisy buses and bring back trolleybuses? The problem is in the UK (IMO) is that politicians generally can't think beyond the next election, so anything like this gets ignored.

by chewz 8y ago

sergiosgc 8y ago

Of course the question is painted as competition for space use. It does not change my original reasoning.

saiya-jin 8y ago

Every single weekend I venture to the mountains. There is basically no connection at all with public transport to 95% of the places. Those that are take 3-5x as long to use. How should I carry all the equipment for climbing, skiing, camping, alpinism, paraglide etc through the city? But OK screw me, imagine pregnant couple, or couple with kids. Would you force them to use public transport with all the equipment required just to get out of city? Elderly? Disabled? Gotta love the folks who feel entitled to tell how whole planet should live, just so that it fits their narrow world view and specific (for me boring) city lifestyle

chewz 8y ago
> How should I carry all the equipment for climbing, skiing, camping, alpinism, paraglide etc through the city? Pay for taxi. or live someplace closer to the mountains. Or keep your car and your equipment somewhere else outside of the city. Why should society sponsor your outdoor interests? Aren't you feeling entitled to your personal convenience at the expense of others?
- cr1895 8y ago
  >Cars do not belong in the city. >Pay for taxi Which is it?
  - saiya-jin 8y ago
    touche, thank you
  - sagichmal 7y ago
    The author obviously meant personal cars.
    - cr1895 7y ago
      That's not obvious to me.

FerretFred 7y ago

>In a city bikes and public transport should be all you need Agreed! And what better time to get rid of those diesel-belching, noisy buses and bring back trolleybuses? The problem is in the UK (IMO) is that politicians generally can't think beyond the next election, so anything like this gets ignored.