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You think UKIP is fascist? Wikipedia defines that with the phrase "...dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition...". Many powerful politically incli

You think UKIP is fascist? Wikipedia defines that with the phrase "...dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition...". Many powerful politically inclined groups are forcibly silencing their opponents these days, but UKIP is not among them.

iron0013 7y ago
You left out the first part of that sentence, which reads: “Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism...”
- burfog 7y ago
  On political topics, Wikipedia is extremely untrustworthy. Paid political workers are writing things like that. Lots of definitions have been changing over the past decade or two. Fascism and also Nazi would not normally have included "right-wing" in the definition in the prior century.
eropple 7y ago
Yes, I most certainly do. Ukip's belief system is pretty fundamentally palingenetic ultranationalism at its core. (As is "Make America Great Again [By Making Sure White People Win]".) EDIT: but, gosh, I sure can't help but notice the first part of the sentence you cherry-picked: "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism" - can you tell me why you tried to play dirty pool about that? EDIT 2: ha, sibling poster got there too. Nice, dude.
- ytNumbers 7y ago
  I suppose UKIP not wanting to submit to their EU bureaucrat overlords makes them radical, right-wing, authoritarian, ultranationalists. Can't someone just finally be sick and tired of all the consequences of EU globalism without being labeled a racist? Sigh... I guess someone has to live for decades in one of the areas worst affected by globalism in order to grasp what has been squandered. For most people, they're not paying the price, so they don't see the problem.
  - eropple 7y ago
    I suppose such people could exist. But they're plainly not the main. I know this because I listen to their spokespeople. They are unsubtle. And you didn't answer why you chopped the quote. I wonder why.
    - mistermann 7y ago
      Can you post any evidence to support your claim? An example of evidence would be the definition of the word "fascist" you are using including a link to the authoritative source, and then some sort of verifiably authentic statement from UKIP that demonstrates their beliefs are truly and properly described as "fascist".
    - nailer 7y ago
      Not the OP, but the 'authoritarian' part of the definition of fascism is more essential than the 'right wing' part.

iron0013 7y ago

You left out the first part of that sentence, which reads: “Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism...”

burfog 7y ago
On political topics, Wikipedia is extremely untrustworthy. Paid political workers are writing things like that. Lots of definitions have been changing over the past decade or two. Fascism and also Nazi would not normally have included "right-wing" in the definition in the prior century.

eropple 7y ago

Yes, I most certainly do. Ukip's belief system is pretty fundamentally palingenetic ultranationalism at its core. (As is "Make America Great Again [By Making Sure White People Win]".) EDIT: but, gosh, I sure can't help but notice the first part of the sentence you cherry-picked: "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism" - can you tell me why you tried to play dirty pool about that? EDIT 2: ha, sibling poster got there too. Nice, dude.

ytNumbers 7y ago
I suppose UKIP not wanting to submit to their EU bureaucrat overlords makes them radical, right-wing, authoritarian, ultranationalists. Can't someone just finally be sick and tired of all the consequences of EU globalism without being labeled a racist? Sigh... I guess someone has to live for decades in one of the areas worst affected by globalism in order to grasp what has been squandered. For most people, they're not paying the price, so they don't see the problem.
- eropple 7y ago
  I suppose such people could exist. But they're plainly not the main. I know this because I listen to their spokespeople. They are unsubtle. And you didn't answer why you chopped the quote. I wonder why.
  - mistermann 7y ago
    Can you post any evidence to support your claim? An example of evidence would be the definition of the word "fascist" you are using including a link to the authoritative source, and then some sort of verifiably authentic statement from UKIP that demonstrates their beliefs are truly and properly described as "fascist".
  - nailer 7y ago
    Not the OP, but the 'authoritarian' part of the definition of fascism is more essential than the 'right wing' part.