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Oh boy. Not the old "aaachtchuly the left are the real nazis!" trope again? How long until you start misinterpreting the cause of the civil war? Hitler was inc

by orf 8y ago

Oh boy. Not the old "aaachtchuly the left are the real nazis!" trope again? How long until you start misinterpreting the cause of the civil war? Hitler was incredibly anti-liberal, authoritarian, pro-business and pro-military and drew most of his initial support from the middle classes and farmers. The socialist name was an attempt to draw lower class workers to the party who typically voted for the actual communist party. Violent protesters exist on both sides, sure. However only one side agitates its members into such a fury that they mow down counter-protesters with cars. The parallels to Sturmabteilung are absolutely ridiculous. Also, gun control did not aide in "hauling off the jews"[1] 1. https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/apr/08/viral-image/no-gun-control-regulation-nazi-germany-did-not-hel/ https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2...

tropo 8y ago
Your link does not show what it claims to show. It merely dismisses the issue, hand-waving away the gun issue due to an imbalance of military capability. If life worked that way: The USA would have failed at the revolution. Vietnam would have been a trivial war for the USA. Afghanistan would have been a trivial war for the USSR. None of the attributes you list for Hitler place him definitely on the right. We can find most of them in FDR, Lenin, Hillary Clinton, and Stalin. (mainly "pro-business" being disputable) Placing that car driver politically with the right is quite a stretch. Remember, the right rejects his values, not even counting the violence. So this idea that he is "right" due to those values, and also that the right is bad via association with people like him, is circular reasoning. One of your arguments works much better the other way: Only one side agitates its members into such a fury that they shoot members of congress at a baseball practice. Only one side agitates its members into such a fury that they try to kill peaceful protesters with bike locks.

by orf 8y ago

tropo 8y ago

Your link does not show what it claims to show. It merely dismisses the issue, hand-waving away the gun issue due to an imbalance of military capability. If life worked that way: The USA would have failed at the revolution. Vietnam would have been a trivial war for the USA. Afghanistan would have been a trivial war for the USSR. None of the attributes you list for Hitler place him definitely on the right. We can find most of them in FDR, Lenin, Hillary Clinton, and Stalin. (mainly "pro-business" being disputable) Placing that car driver politically with the right is quite a stretch. Remember, the right rejects his values, not even counting the violence. So this idea that he is "right" due to those values, and also that the right is bad via association with people like him, is circular reasoning. One of your arguments works much better the other way: Only one side agitates its members into such a fury that they shoot members of congress at a baseball practice. Only one side agitates its members into such a fury that they try to kill peaceful protesters with bike locks.