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There are dozens of companies providing kubernetes with various levels of management, and there are also many companies selling addons. It's a huge market, and

There are dozens of companies providing kubernetes with various levels of management, and there are also many companies selling addons. It's a huge market, and Docker captured almost none of it. Considering Docker literally developed the underlying technology, and a lot of the complexity and capabilities of Kubernetes come from its design, they had a tremendous advantage that was squandered. Google clearly had a huge advantage too since they have been using containers for years. But Docker certainly was in a good place.

zaphirplane 7y ago
Exactly a good model is puppet labs. They have a enterprise version and a go to consultancy They seem to be surviving. I hope in this age of the cloud From memory docker and some of its engineers and managers where at logger heads with redhat and google see rocket, systemd containers, podman and k8s This forced docker to commoditise it’s tech or docker was slowly boiled into commoditised component Signed arm chair warrior
- not_real_acct 7y ago
  > Exactly a good model is puppet labs. They have a enterprise version and a go to consultancy They seem to be surviving. I hope in this age of the cloud Their CEO stepped down three years ago: https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2016/09/luke_kanies_founder_of_portlan.html https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2016/09/luke_kanie... The new CEO has ONE expertise, which is winding down bankrupt tech companies: http://thedronegirl.com/2018/09/14/airware-closing/ http://thedronegirl.com/2018/09/14/airware-closing/
mbesto 7y ago
> It's a huge market, and Docker captured almost none of it. Is it though? Aside from cloud vendors (Azure/AWS/GCP) who's the "huge market"?
- jpatokal 7y ago
  The cloud market is pretty darn huge, why are you dismissing it? Aside from the public cloud vendors, containers are very much a thing in the private cloud space too (OpenShift, Pivotal, etc).
simonebrunozzi 7y ago
Huge? Don't think so, not now. Name me one of these companies with more than $100M revenues per year. None. It's still a tiny market.

zaphirplane 7y ago

Exactly a good model is puppet labs. They have a enterprise version and a go to consultancy They seem to be surviving. I hope in this age of the cloud From memory docker and some of its engineers and managers where at logger heads with redhat and google see rocket, systemd containers, podman and k8s This forced docker to commoditise it’s tech or docker was slowly boiled into commoditised component Signed arm chair warrior

not_real_acct 7y ago
> Exactly a good model is puppet labs. They have a enterprise version and a go to consultancy They seem to be surviving. I hope in this age of the cloud Their CEO stepped down three years ago: https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2016/09/luke_kanies_founder_of_portlan.html https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2016/09/luke_kanie... The new CEO has ONE expertise, which is winding down bankrupt tech companies: http://thedronegirl.com/2018/09/14/airware-closing/ http://thedronegirl.com/2018/09/14/airware-closing/

mbesto 7y ago

> It's a huge market, and Docker captured almost none of it. Is it though? Aside from cloud vendors (Azure/AWS/GCP) who's the "huge market"?

jpatokal 7y ago
The cloud market is pretty darn huge, why are you dismissing it? Aside from the public cloud vendors, containers are very much a thing in the private cloud space too (OpenShift, Pivotal, etc).

simonebrunozzi 7y ago

Huge? Don't think so, not now. Name me one of these companies with more than $100M revenues per year. None. It's still a tiny market.