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You think Apple is less evil than Google? Remember that Apple has been cracked by the FBI, has proprietary connectors, and charges more than anyone. I couldn'

You think Apple is less evil than Google? Remember that Apple has been cracked by the FBI, has proprietary connectors, and charges more than anyone. I couldn't disagree more. Apple is horrible to customers and developers.

Dirlewanger 7y ago
Remember that Apple didn't help the FBI in breaking it. Apple stood up to the FBI. The FBI later went to an Israeli firm to crack it.
mediocrejoker 7y ago
Apple got a ton of flak for adopting USB-C way before anyone else, which is the opposite of proprietary. I also don't see how "being cracked by the FBI" makes one evil, in fact I think resisting the FBI in the first place makes them good.
- xvector 7y ago
  Why are people downvoting your comment here? You are 100% correct. Apple also made significant contributions to the development of USB-C and have the best implementation of USB-C with Thunderbolt 3 in their products bar none. Yes, the iPhone still ships with Lightning connectors. But Lightning was revolutionary in a world full of phenomenally shitty Micro-USB connectors. It's really not a big deal, and Apple will move to USB-C for sure eventually.
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    Right completely ignore what Google did for USB-C ? And what one google engineer Benson Leung did for USB-C cables ?
    - xvector 7y ago
      Why the need for such a petulant and childish response? Did I say that Google and Benson didn't contribute to USB-C? No. Neither did I phrase it as if Apple was the only contributor. So what's with the defensiveness?
bashinator 7y ago
So proprietary that I'm charging my Lenovo with an Apple power brick.
- LilBytes 7y ago
  I was pretty surprised when I charged by Pixel with an Apple charger and the MacBook power brick. I knew they used USB C but wrongly assumed they'd not work.
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urda 7y ago
You mean the Apple that has designed all their hardware and software to not spy on you? You mean the Apple that takes IoT security seriously that involves a certification process versus Google who just killed off their Nest ecosystem? You mean the Apple that stood up to the FBI? Sure proprietary connectors are on some of their products, but it sounds like you consider USB-C proprietary now? Apple has moved a number of their devices to USB-C and that will probably only go up overtime. Apple has physical retail presence, which makes purchases, repairs, and other interactions easy for customers. Apple isn't perfect, but I don't think you're looking at the same Apple everyone else is.

Dirlewanger 7y ago

Remember that Apple didn't help the FBI in breaking it. Apple stood up to the FBI. The FBI later went to an Israeli firm to crack it.

mediocrejoker 7y ago

Apple got a ton of flak for adopting USB-C way before anyone else, which is the opposite of proprietary. I also don't see how "being cracked by the FBI" makes one evil, in fact I think resisting the FBI in the first place makes them good.

xvector 7y ago
Why are people downvoting your comment here? You are 100% correct. Apple also made significant contributions to the development of USB-C and have the best implementation of USB-C with Thunderbolt 3 in their products bar none. Yes, the iPhone still ships with Lightning connectors. But Lightning was revolutionary in a world full of phenomenally shitty Micro-USB connectors. It's really not a big deal, and Apple will move to USB-C for sure eventually.
- mav3rick 7y ago
  Right completely ignore what Google did for USB-C ? And what one google engineer Benson Leung did for USB-C cables ?
  - xvector 7y ago
    Why the need for such a petulant and childish response? Did I say that Google and Benson didn't contribute to USB-C? No. Neither did I phrase it as if Apple was the only contributor. So what's with the defensiveness?

bashinator 7y ago

So proprietary that I'm charging my Lenovo with an Apple power brick.

LilBytes 7y ago
I was pretty surprised when I charged by Pixel with an Apple charger and the MacBook power brick. I knew they used USB C but wrongly assumed they'd not work.

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urda 7y ago

You mean the Apple that has designed all their hardware and software to not spy on you? You mean the Apple that takes IoT security seriously that involves a certification process versus Google who just killed off their Nest ecosystem? You mean the Apple that stood up to the FBI? Sure proprietary connectors are on some of their products, but it sounds like you consider USB-C proprietary now? Apple has moved a number of their devices to USB-C and that will probably only go up overtime. Apple has physical retail presence, which makes purchases, repairs, and other interactions easy for customers. Apple isn't perfect, but I don't think you're looking at the same Apple everyone else is.