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It sounds like you didn't actually read the article tho.

by SG- 7y ago

gok 7y ago
I read it, and it's mostly wrong. The truth is in the first 2 paragraphs (muggings where they force you to disable activation lock), then they cover a bunch of rare cases.
mschuster91 7y ago
He did, I believe. The question is, if I were a criminal and robbed someone at gunpoint for their iPhone, would it make any sense to not ask the victim about their iCloud password at the same time? I'd still be going down with armed robbery if caught, but if not caught I'd still be ahead either over $150 to pay for a corrupt Apple manager to unlock it or have the bad luck of being recorded on Apple security cameras while spoofing the Genius Bar employee with a fake invoice? I don't care much about the repair industry, they can sell every part of a phone, both legit or stolen, except the display and the logic board. The display can't be resold anyway as it will have been extensively scratched anyway and the logic board rarely breaks.
- Someone 7y ago
  I think it may be stretching it a bit, but do not rule out that “Asking” for a password and using it or forcing a user to use it could be seen as breaking into a computer system. If so, this could lead to an additional sentence, for cybercrime. As a robber, you probably also do not really want to spend time “negotiating” with your victim over their password, thus giving them more time to see your face, spot your accent, etc.
  - gruez 7y ago
    >If so, this could lead to an additional sentence, for cybercrime. I think you're giving criminals too much credit here. Risking a few years in jail to get $200 when you can get that risk free working a minimum wage job means they either don't care about the punishment, or they don't think they're going to be caught.
    - mengmeng 7y ago
      but you haven't worked a minimum wage job. and that hasn't been the only option available to you.
- jmkni 7y ago
  I legitimately don't know my iCloud password, it's in (and generated by) my password manager, so if my phone asks me for it, I need to go to my PC and open Keepass. I'm a bit fucked if I get mugged!
  - snypox 7y ago
    That’s the best solution to the problem if you ask me. I wonder how would a thief react to that response tho.

It sounds like you didn't actually read the article tho.

by SG- 7y ago

It sounds like you didn't actually read the article tho.

gok 7y ago

I read it, and it's mostly wrong. The truth is in the first 2 paragraphs (muggings where they force you to disable activation lock), then they cover a bunch of rare cases.

mschuster91 7y ago

He did, I believe. The question is, if I were a criminal and robbed someone at gunpoint for their iPhone, would it make any sense to not ask the victim about their iCloud password at the same time? I'd still be going down with armed robbery if caught, but if not caught I'd still be ahead either over $150 to pay for a corrupt Apple manager to unlock it or have the bad luck of being recorded on Apple security cameras while spoofing the Genius Bar employee with a fake invoice? I don't care much about the repair industry, they can sell every part of a phone, both legit or stolen, except the display and the logic board. The display can't be resold anyway as it will have been extensively scratched anyway and the logic board rarely breaks.

Someone 7y ago
I think it may be stretching it a bit, but do not rule out that “Asking” for a password and using it or forcing a user to use it could be seen as breaking into a computer system. If so, this could lead to an additional sentence, for cybercrime. As a robber, you probably also do not really want to spend time “negotiating” with your victim over their password, thus giving them more time to see your face, spot your accent, etc.
- gruez 7y ago
  >If so, this could lead to an additional sentence, for cybercrime. I think you're giving criminals too much credit here. Risking a few years in jail to get $200 when you can get that risk free working a minimum wage job means they either don't care about the punishment, or they don't think they're going to be caught.
  - mengmeng 7y ago
    but you haven't worked a minimum wage job. and that hasn't been the only option available to you.
jmkni 7y ago
I legitimately don't know my iCloud password, it's in (and generated by) my password manager, so if my phone asks me for it, I need to go to my PC and open Keepass. I'm a bit fucked if I get mugged!
- snypox 7y ago
  That’s the best solution to the problem if you ask me. I wonder how would a thief react to that response tho.