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We should also be careful when discussing the case not to fall into the trap of demonising the women involved, based on little or no available evidence, just be

We should also be careful when discussing the case not to fall into the trap of demonising the women involved, based on little or no available evidence, just because we like Assange and approve of what Wikileaks is doing. Reasonable doubt is rational. But I'm seeing a lot of misogynistic attacks elsewhere on the Interwebs, and they're irrational and counterproductive, as well as being icky. This article is good: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/07/rape-claims-julian-assange?CMP=twt_gu http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/07/rape-claims-juli...

sliverstorm 16y ago
Indeed. I have several friends already who are too caught up in him and what he's doing to even consider he could be guilty- and I suspect one of them may even feel that guilty or not, he shouldn't be prosecuted.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  At a minimum he's guilty of stupidity and being a douchebag at that. Neither of those are illegal. The only real questions I have at this point is if this is the 'norm' for this kind of offense in Sweden and if there is a hidden agenda to have him extradited to the US. If this is the norm and Sweden would normally handle cases like this in exactly this way and if there is no hidden agenda (ironically, only wikileaks will probably ever tell us that) then there is no problem. It's funny how 'cablegate' probably causes a lot of cables that are far more interesting than the ones actually released.
  - etherael 16y ago
    WRT the degree to which this is 'normal procedure' for swedish criminal investigations; http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1979095 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1979095
    - jacquesm 16y ago
      Interesting, I can't find any articles about that in the news and the only reference in google to the quote is the HN comment! Would be nice to find some other link confirming that story.

sliverstorm 16y ago

Indeed. I have several friends already who are too caught up in him and what he's doing to even consider he could be guilty- and I suspect one of them may even feel that guilty or not, he shouldn't be prosecuted.

jacquesm 16y ago
At a minimum he's guilty of stupidity and being a douchebag at that. Neither of those are illegal. The only real questions I have at this point is if this is the 'norm' for this kind of offense in Sweden and if there is a hidden agenda to have him extradited to the US. If this is the norm and Sweden would normally handle cases like this in exactly this way and if there is no hidden agenda (ironically, only wikileaks will probably ever tell us that) then there is no problem. It's funny how 'cablegate' probably causes a lot of cables that are far more interesting than the ones actually released.
- etherael 16y ago
  WRT the degree to which this is 'normal procedure' for swedish criminal investigations; http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1979095 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1979095
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    Interesting, I can't find any articles about that in the news and the only reference in google to the quote is the HN comment! Would be nice to find some other link confirming that story.