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This is a great response to the other post (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1983141 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1983141). I think the work of web de

This is a great response to the other post (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1983141 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1983141). I think the work of web designers is vastly undervalued and to say a quality design is worth only $15.00 is pretty absurd. 50K, okay, it's a bit of hyperbole but point well made.

fredoliveira 16y ago
I think it's a point well made, and I actually enjoy sarcasm, but this is certainly not the kind of thing I expect to see on HN. I too agree that $15 for a "web design" is absurd (heck, even the sentence "a web design" alone is). Quality work depends on the designer diving into the business of the client, which certainly will not happen in this case. That being said, I would actually love to see an actual articulation of the points motivating this "response" rather than a page that can simply (and quite likely will) be perceived as arrogant.
GrandMasterBirt 16y ago
I think his point was, for 15 bucks you "commited" money so you will pay attention to him, if you like it chances are you will hire him to do more than just this 15 bucks worth of crap. Think of it as: a) Building a portfolio: xyz sites use my designs therefore i rule. b) Building relationships: xyz site uses my designs therefore i rule, which is why next time they need a design they will call me. c) Show off: xyz site uses my designs therefore i rule and i will post it on my site, which is why people will see what I do any anytime people want a design i will be a known name and have a portfolio to show for it. He'd do it for free, but nobody will take him seriously. Now. Where was I, oh yes, I will accept this 50 grand challenge. Submit proof that you are worth at least 10 grand.
sanswork 16y ago
Quality design is worth whatever people are willing to charge for it. Web design on the lower end is extremely saturated with a lot of people just looking for a break and willing to do good enough design for next to no pay. It's not the same as hiring a design company for thousands of dollars but the vast majority of people don't need or want that.
storborg 16y ago
Why hate on the $15 dude? He's into doing quick designs and he'll probably have a steady stream of work. Do people feel threatened by that?

fredoliveira 16y ago

I think it's a point well made, and I actually enjoy sarcasm, but this is certainly not the kind of thing I expect to see on HN. I too agree that $15 for a "web design" is absurd (heck, even the sentence "a web design" alone is). Quality work depends on the designer diving into the business of the client, which certainly will not happen in this case. That being said, I would actually love to see an actual articulation of the points motivating this "response" rather than a page that can simply (and quite likely will) be perceived as arrogant.

GrandMasterBirt 16y ago

I think his point was, for 15 bucks you "commited" money so you will pay attention to him, if you like it chances are you will hire him to do more than just this 15 bucks worth of crap. Think of it as: a) Building a portfolio: xyz sites use my designs therefore i rule. b) Building relationships: xyz site uses my designs therefore i rule, which is why next time they need a design they will call me. c) Show off: xyz site uses my designs therefore i rule and i will post it on my site, which is why people will see what I do any anytime people want a design i will be a known name and have a portfolio to show for it. He'd do it for free, but nobody will take him seriously. Now. Where was I, oh yes, I will accept this 50 grand challenge. Submit proof that you are worth at least 10 grand.

sanswork 16y ago

Quality design is worth whatever people are willing to charge for it. Web design on the lower end is extremely saturated with a lot of people just looking for a break and willing to do good enough design for next to no pay. It's not the same as hiring a design company for thousands of dollars but the vast majority of people don't need or want that.

storborg 16y ago

Why hate on the $15 dude? He's into doing quick designs and he'll probably have a steady stream of work. Do people feel threatened by that?