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Tbh...VS Code was/is a game changer for software development. I also love how Azure products work so seamlessly with it. Almost magical.

by amolo 7y ago

gdsdfe 7y ago
This is what I am talking about ... Developers, developers, developers : Ballmer was right about that but he though he should only care about .Net and MSFT products and fight everything else. The Nadella model is we don't care what you use, where or how : if you're making software we want to help you ... with this buying services from MSFT is not the goal per se but a consequence
- meddlepal 7y ago
  I think Balmer lost vision of what a "platform" truly is. Microsoft understood this in the 90's with Windows, forgot it in the 00's under Balmer and seems to be recapturing it heading into the 2020's. They could be a huge force again by the end of next decade.
kermitismyhero 7y ago
When I discovered VS Code a few months ago (I'm a hobbyist just getting into coding, not a professional) after many recommendations from friends who code and are die-hard open source true-believers, I did a legitimate doubletake after reading the name of the company that developed it. I then spent an hour researching it, trying to find out what the catch was. Was the wikipedia page entry a prank? Was I getting some kind of malware masquerading as a pro development tool? Was is a temporary trial before big licensing fees were demanded of me? Does it need some sort expensive companion server that only runs on Windows Server? What's the catch? But no, no catch. It's free, and it's open, and it works great. But every time I launch it I feel like I've walked into some weird alternate dimension. I have to remind myself that yes, this is reality: I'm using a native-Linux, fast, reliable, extensible, MIT-licensed editor made by freakin' Microsoft. So strange, man. So strange.
- wuschel 7y ago
  ... except perhaps for the Microsoft telemetry that is active in the distributed VScode binaries [1]? To quote user ilaksh in this thread: "They will set it up so that it will _seem_ like your are developing for Linux, but due to some extensions or technicality it will only work on _Linux inside of Windows_. So from my perspective it is amazing that people think this is a good thing for Linux." There are good historic reasons to distrust M$. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18209082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18209082
  - kermitismyhero 7y ago
    I did see and disable the telemetry option in the preferences the first time I used it, and so far it seems to behave itself and not quietly re-enable telemetry.
acct1771 7y ago
What's keeping you on Azure?
- darkcha0s 7y ago
  What's the alternative?

Tbh...VS Code was/is a game changer for software development. I also love how Azure products work so seamlessly with it. Almost magical.

by amolo 7y ago

Tbh...VS Code was/is a game changer for software development. I also love how Azure products work so seamlessly with it. Almost magical.

gdsdfe 7y ago

This is what I am talking about ... Developers, developers, developers : Ballmer was right about that but he though he should only care about .Net and MSFT products and fight everything else. The Nadella model is we don't care what you use, where or how : if you're making software we want to help you ... with this buying services from MSFT is not the goal per se but a consequence

meddlepal 7y ago
I think Balmer lost vision of what a "platform" truly is. Microsoft understood this in the 90's with Windows, forgot it in the 00's under Balmer and seems to be recapturing it heading into the 2020's. They could be a huge force again by the end of next decade.

kermitismyhero 7y ago

When I discovered VS Code a few months ago (I'm a hobbyist just getting into coding, not a professional) after many recommendations from friends who code and are die-hard open source true-believers, I did a legitimate doubletake after reading the name of the company that developed it. I then spent an hour researching it, trying to find out what the catch was. Was the wikipedia page entry a prank? Was I getting some kind of malware masquerading as a pro development tool? Was is a temporary trial before big licensing fees were demanded of me? Does it need some sort expensive companion server that only runs on Windows Server? What's the catch? But no, no catch. It's free, and it's open, and it works great. But every time I launch it I feel like I've walked into some weird alternate dimension. I have to remind myself that yes, this is reality: I'm using a native-Linux, fast, reliable, extensible, MIT-licensed editor made by freakin' Microsoft. So strange, man. So strange.

wuschel 7y ago
... except perhaps for the Microsoft telemetry that is active in the distributed VScode binaries [1]? To quote user ilaksh in this thread: "They will set it up so that it will _seem_ like your are developing for Linux, but due to some extensions or technicality it will only work on _Linux inside of Windows_. So from my perspective it is amazing that people think this is a good thing for Linux." There are good historic reasons to distrust M$. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18209082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18209082
- kermitismyhero 7y ago
  I did see and disable the telemetry option in the preferences the first time I used it, and so far it seems to behave itself and not quietly re-enable telemetry.

acct1771 7y ago

What's keeping you on Azure?

darkcha0s 7y ago
What's the alternative?