> Again, where are those contributors? Current contributions are besides the point, when Netscape open-sourced their browser, the Mozilla Foundation didn't eve

> Again, where are those contributors? Current contributions are besides the point, when Netscape open-sourced their browser, the Mozilla Foundation didn't even exist prior to that moment. Java without Oracle is viable - I dare say a "Java Foundation" would be an improvement in terms of community involvement, and there are candidate companies with vested interests (and excellent engineers) to join one should it ever come into existence. Oracle has a history of not being great at dealing with the wider open source community, not just related to Java: look at how it handled Open Office.