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Please try not to flamebait, particularly with political topics, on HN. Aside from the actual topic at hand — China — the big pillars of Economic growth, immig
by zaroth 8y ago
Please try not to flamebait, particularly with political topics, on HN.
Aside from the actual topic at hand — China — the big pillars of Economic growth, immigration, healthcare, North Korea, the Middle East, national security, ISIS, and NATO are all massive issues that US continues to struggle with and has for decades (well, ISIS is a recent spinoff of an older problem).
Trump has set a great direction in Iraq/Afghanistan (get the hell out). Trump has worked marvels with Kim (when was the last nuclear test?). Trump made great strides in recognizing the truth on the growth with the embassy move to Jerusalem and judging by the latest hystrionics by Hamas might be zeroing in on the greatest deal of his life in the Middle East. Trumps purpose with the travel ban was forcing better intelligence/screening of incoming passengers and we’ve got the data sharing he wanted. NATO countries are paying more than ever. The ISIS caliphate is defeated.
Immigration reform and healthcare he has fought hard battles and wants to keep fighting. There’s recent progress on the great DACA bargain. Trump wants to get true historic immigration reform on that list, and he continues to push for a real Republican answer to healthcare while chipping away at the margins for things like drug pricing.
Oh yeah, and the economy has literally never been better, and never been better for everyone across the income scale. He fought the Fed hard to ensure real wages would rise for the low and middle class when they tried to squash it with rate hikes.
Trumps strategy with China is sound (despite the talking heads all saying tariffs don’t work) and he had the leverage going into this negotiation to get important concessions.
All this, while the whole time being called a Russian traitor from across the aisle. Crazy times we live in.
- martythemaniak 8y agoI find it quite amusing that holding somewhat banal, mainstream, well-accepted and factually-sound opinion (ie, "The Trump administration is incompetent and his policies cannot and have not achieved their stated end goals"), is enough to be considered a flamer, troll etc. Don't worry, you're not the weird one - I got reprimanded by dang for essentially paraphrasing Masha Gessen's writings in The Atlantic. Wow, what a rebel I am! When a place that exists to "gratify one's intellectual curiosity" is so unable to deal with mainstream opinion, we are living in crazy times indeed.
- zaroth 8y agoI think the underlying question is whether you’re trying to score points or engage in honest intellectual inquiry and debate. The pile on of many massive long-standing world problems and the notion a person is going to “solve” them seems to indicate it’s more a post meant to provoke than to invite civil discussion.
- SolaceQuantum 8y agoI don't know if the depiction here displays all the nuances that's being described: (Minor edit: I want to emphasize I'm not trying to challenge for any political chargement, even though this is a politically charged area. I'm mostly interested because this is drastically different from my understanding, and believe this is an educated viewpoint from different sources that I lack in my life. I'm looking to be appropriately enriched by being informed of other information I've been left ignorant on.) > Trump has set a great direction in Iraq/Afghanistan (get the hell out). This has concerns about leaving (yet another) power gap, no? > Trump has worked marvels with Kim (when was the last nuclear test?) Didn't Kim absolutely walk away from the most recent meeting with Trump with absolutely no deals made whatsoever? > Trumps purpose with the travel ban was forcing better intelligence/screening of incoming passengers and we’ve got the data sharing he wanted. I didn't know that increased surveillance was a good thing. Also, if his was to increase surveillance it disrupted a lot of people's lives, careers, etc. I don't know if that was the best strategic way to go about this given other, less-disruptive manners. > NATO countries are paying more than ever. Why is this a good thing? > The ISIS caliphate is defeated. Is this attributable to Trump? > Trump wants to get true historic immigration reform on that list What is that historic immigration reform specifically? I hear stuff about separating families at the border, children getting 'lost', and biometric screenings to verify families. Is that the reform? Is there reform I haven't heard about from the MSM? > continues to push for a real Republican answer to healthcare while chipping away at the margins for things like drug pricing I thought the Republican answer was to repeal ACA, which makes healthcare deniable to people with pre-existing conditions again, among other things. What are other proposed solutions? > the economy has literally never been better, and never been better for everyone across the income scale Is this attributable to anything Trump specifically did? I agree this is good, but I'm not sure if this is something Trump did. I'm not an economist, btw! > Trumps strategy with China is sound (despite the talking heads all saying tariffs don’t work) and he had the leverage going into this negotiation to get important concessions. We're going into an article where China is actually not giving any concessions and in fact has reneged on almost all of them. So I'm... confused? If you have sources I'd love to be educated since you seem to have much greater insight into this than me, and are getting different conclusions than I am, possibly because my sources are not covering the things your sources are! Could you tell me where you're getting your sources? Thanks.