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Tell me, did it strike you at any point that generalizing Chinese players viewing you as just another generic white person might have some hint of the pot calli

Tell me, did it strike you at any point that generalizing Chinese players viewing you as just another generic white person might have some hint of the pot calling the kettle black?

cannedslime 7y ago
First of all I'm not generalizing. What I say is purely based on my experiences. Experiences may differ. Im not racist, infact I love China as a country (I want to visit again sooner than later) and I think that many chinese are good honest persons, especially the elder more talkative and the young people from the big cities (especially Shanghai youngsters seem very "western" for a lack of a better word). But there is many that are not. Its cultural, imagine the history of the chinese. Having empathy and having the balls to take a stance would at some points in history have cut your lineage short in china. Its actually kind of funny that you accuse me of generalization, since every single chinese I have met in China referred to me as "Englishman" and wanted to take pictures with me because i had "jew hair"
- rincebrain 7y ago
  You are describing every player who was a member of a group as having similar characteristics, based on your experiences with (presumably) the subset of those players you've encountered. I'm not weighing in on whether you're right or wrong, here, just remarking that you seemed to be demonstrating similar behaviors to those you were complaining about. It's possible to stereotype or overgeneralize about cultures and people in ways that are not negative. I'm also not (intentionally) suggesting that your observations of behavior are accurate or inaccurate, or that the relevant people weren't engaging in the same behavior, just that the grouping of a complaint about people overgeneralizing with defining of the people doing the grouping as members of a very large group was quite striking, to me.
  - cannedslime 7y ago
    No I described my general experience in a certain game, after a specific market was opened. Of course it was a subset, I met like one or two super cool chinese players, even had a few chicken dinners, but the overall experience for me was not worth it after the chinese flooded the game, I and many others simply stopped playing. How is what I say here similar to what what im complaining about? Am I referring to all chinese dog eating communists? Am I implying I shot them promptly in the face ingame for their gear, because they did it to me? Yes its possible to stereotype and overgeneralize in a positive way, I can say lot of positive things about China and the chinese, but not really when it comes to online gaming culture, sorry! Its just a general problem with mixing regions like that, similar things could be said about russians in the EU region of CSGO etc..
practice9 7y ago
I think it's not the same because they disregard the rules and refuse to communicate (at least that's my impression). Unfair game is unfair game no matter what nation / race or skin color you are
- rincebrain 7y ago
  Sure, I wasn't trying to suggest they were completely equivalent. The fact that the parent was objecting to every member of a group of people treating all members of another group of people similarly struck me quite strongly when reading it, separate from the discussion about differences in culture.
PavlovsCat 7y ago
Have you ever actually played the game? Or browsed the forums, for that matter? https://steamcommunity.com/app/578080/discussions/1/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/578080/discussions/1/

Tell me, did it strike you at any point that generalizing Chinese players viewing you as just another generic white person might have some hint of the pot calling the kettle black?

cannedslime 7y ago

First of all I'm not generalizing. What I say is purely based on my experiences. Experiences may differ. Im not racist, infact I love China as a country (I want to visit again sooner than later) and I think that many chinese are good honest persons, especially the elder more talkative and the young people from the big cities (especially Shanghai youngsters seem very "western" for a lack of a better word). But there is many that are not. Its cultural, imagine the history of the chinese. Having empathy and having the balls to take a stance would at some points in history have cut your lineage short in china. Its actually kind of funny that you accuse me of generalization, since every single chinese I have met in China referred to me as "Englishman" and wanted to take pictures with me because i had "jew hair"

rincebrain 7y ago
You are describing every player who was a member of a group as having similar characteristics, based on your experiences with (presumably) the subset of those players you've encountered. I'm not weighing in on whether you're right or wrong, here, just remarking that you seemed to be demonstrating similar behaviors to those you were complaining about. It's possible to stereotype or overgeneralize about cultures and people in ways that are not negative. I'm also not (intentionally) suggesting that your observations of behavior are accurate or inaccurate, or that the relevant people weren't engaging in the same behavior, just that the grouping of a complaint about people overgeneralizing with defining of the people doing the grouping as members of a very large group was quite striking, to me.
- cannedslime 7y ago
  No I described my general experience in a certain game, after a specific market was opened. Of course it was a subset, I met like one or two super cool chinese players, even had a few chicken dinners, but the overall experience for me was not worth it after the chinese flooded the game, I and many others simply stopped playing. How is what I say here similar to what what im complaining about? Am I referring to all chinese dog eating communists? Am I implying I shot them promptly in the face ingame for their gear, because they did it to me? Yes its possible to stereotype and overgeneralize in a positive way, I can say lot of positive things about China and the chinese, but not really when it comes to online gaming culture, sorry! Its just a general problem with mixing regions like that, similar things could be said about russians in the EU region of CSGO etc..

practice9 7y ago

I think it's not the same because they disregard the rules and refuse to communicate (at least that's my impression). Unfair game is unfair game no matter what nation / race or skin color you are

rincebrain 7y ago
Sure, I wasn't trying to suggest they were completely equivalent. The fact that the parent was objecting to every member of a group of people treating all members of another group of people similarly struck me quite strongly when reading it, separate from the discussion about differences in culture.

PavlovsCat 7y ago

Have you ever actually played the game? Or browsed the forums, for that matter? https://steamcommunity.com/app/578080/discussions/1/ https://steamcommunity.com/app/578080/discussions/1/