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It's even worse. The previous controversy this show caused was actual calls to violence, including a very overtly "coded" message to assassinate Trump. So, CBS
by 5trokerac3 7y ago
It's even worse. The previous controversy this show caused was actual calls to violence, including a very overtly "coded" message to assassinate Trump.
So, CBS will let that run, but will censor anything that offends the communist party of China.
Edit: For everyone jumping on the downvote train: I don't think either should be censored, but what they do censor is very telling of their ethics.
- ceejayoz 7y agoThis was the "coded message" that also included "dethrone Chameleon Man" as its directives, right?
- 5trokerac3 7y agoNo, it was three very specific words in order that, if you typed them here, would result in you being investigated.
- hannasanarion 7y agoWhich is exactly the context they were in in the show: a NSA agent watching out for dangerous people online.
- 5trokerac3 7y agoSo, what you're saying is that if in 2010 a TV show put the same thing on screen but had Obama instead of Trump, that everyone would think it was ok?
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- hannasanarion 7y agoYeah. TV shows where the bad guys are assassins or terrorists are not a new invention.
- komali2 7y agoYes, because the context was "the NSA should be concerned about these words." I think the NSA is concerned about the assassination of any president.
- sonnyblarney 7y agoNo, that doesn't absolve CBS. The words themselves are far too easily decontextualized by people, they have power on their own. CBS is hiding behind that, it's utterly inappropriate. The context would have to be glaringly and completely clear, basically explained, in order for it to be approaching 'ok'.
- Wowfunhappy 7y agoBut, in the show, that context is glaringly and completely clear! There are two NSA employees looking at their list of NSA-provided words to determine whether they have cause to spy on a citizen. How could it be more clear?
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- ColanR 7y agoTechnically it's an 'easter egg'. [1] It's hard to think that the phrase is accidental (see upper left corner). If you want to poke fun at the other phrases in the list, be my guest, but you're not disproving the ugly and intentional nature of the political message in that easter egg. [1] https://i.redd.it/nldbz62by4s21.jpg https://i.redd.it/nldbz62by4s21.jpg Edit: forgive the annotations on the image. It's what I found on reddit when I looked around for a source on what GP was talking about.
- ceejayoz 7y agoYour annotations are actually quite useful, as they certainly seem to deflate the point that they were intentionally providing a political message - "assassinate Trump" and "slay fake news" / "hit Mueller" are opposite sides of the political spectrum. As others have mentioned in the thread, it's just a plausible list of NSA watchlist words. (Unfortunately, my post here probably wound up in one of their datacenters now.)
- kaolti 7y agoInteresting to observe how stating facts gets you downvoted.
- drocer88 7y agoWelcome to HN.
- thedaemon 7y agoWelcome to America.
- kaolti 7y agoWelcome to the culture war.
- spork12 7y agoIndeed, we are in a sort of cold civil war in western culture right now over core beliefs and culture. HN definitely seems to have a collective bias to one side of that.
- cycrutchfield 7y agoYes, HN does tend to have a collective bias towards logic and reason, and against wild conspiracy theories.
- spork12 7y agoI would agree with your statement, most folks here use logic & statistics to backup their arguments. In my comment above I was talking about the 'conservative' vs 'liberal' cultural war going on right now. EDIT: Oh wait, after re-reading it's a tongue and cheek comment making fun of liberals. Let's try to be more civil in our discussion.
- hannasanarion 7y ago"the show called for violence against Trump" is not a fact. The words "assassinate" and "President" appear on a NSA watch list in the show. That's not a call to violence any more than this comment is.
- Wowfunhappy 7y agoMay I ask if you've actually watched the show? In context, this was a list of the words that are being monitored by the NSA. It stands to reason that the NSA would want to track people who discuss assassinating the president. I don't understand why this is controversial.
- sonnyblarney 7y agoThat context doesn't absolve CBS. It is wildly inappropriate to be doing such a thing.
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- Wowfunhappy 7y agoSee my reply to your other comment down-thread.