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You're bemoaning that the lack of use of DOM to render the UI???? Seriously? That ship has sailed when Canvas was introduced in the mid-2000s and it was introdu

You're bemoaning that the lack of use of DOM to render the UI???? Seriously? That ship has sailed when Canvas was introduced in the mid-2000s and it was introduced for the EXACT reason to provide the same kind of capabilities that people had with Flash. People wanted and want to build rich web-based APPLICATIONS - not just websites with columns of text. That's why Flash became huge, and that's why HTML now has Canvas, Video, WebGL, WebAssembly, WebRTC (all of which were available in Flash - sometimes years before they were available in HTML). The specific example you showed, nyTimes puzzle game, you'd never build that on-top of DOM (you could, but why would you?). You'd use JS to draw your UI with the Canvas 2D APIs. So I don't know what you're talking about. >There's a reason why flash died out, and it's not only apple. It was dropped for making interactive website long before apple killed it - it doesn't work well with the web NO!!! That's not why Flash died out. Flash died out because you had a standards-based alternative. Steve Jobs probably accelerated the transition a little bit, but it was inevitable.

Illniyar 8y ago
Flashed died out way before canvas. No one but design shops made their websites with it. It remained strong in games and ads and disappeared everywhere else. That is why apple could even survive not supporting it.
- macspoofing 8y ago
  >Flashed died out way before canvas. No. Canvas was introduced in 2004 but not really mainstreamed until a few years later. I would put the golden age of Flash as 2000-2008, with a slow decline after. >It remained strong in games and ads and disappeared everywhere else. You're just saying things, but you inadvertently hit on the point that I'm making, that is the decline of Flash coincided with HTML/JS being given capabilities to actually replace Flash. Had that never happened, you'd still have Flash because there would be things that people would want to do over the web, and no other way to do it.

Illniyar 8y ago

Flashed died out way before canvas. No one but design shops made their websites with it. It remained strong in games and ads and disappeared everywhere else. That is why apple could even survive not supporting it.

macspoofing 8y ago
>Flashed died out way before canvas. No. Canvas was introduced in 2004 but not really mainstreamed until a few years later. I would put the golden age of Flash as 2000-2008, with a slow decline after. >It remained strong in games and ads and disappeared everywhere else. You're just saying things, but you inadvertently hit on the point that I'm making, that is the decline of Flash coincided with HTML/JS being given capabilities to actually replace Flash. Had that never happened, you'd still have Flash because there would be things that people would want to do over the web, and no other way to do it.