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They choose to use websites and software, whose developers in turn choose to send usage data to third parties. Trust in this sense is necessarily transitive.
by orcthwy012 7y ago
They choose to use websites and software, whose developers in turn choose to send usage data to third parties. Trust in this sense is necessarily transitive. In a complex world with long supply chains, almost everything works that way - I don't get to choose every ingredient in a restaurant meal either. Either way, the point is that users do have control today and that they use this control to maximize convenience at the expense of privacy. Thus the idea that "people being in control of their own stuff" will help is kind of meaningless - they are already in control. Even choosing not to be informed is a choice - people are not informed because consequences so far have been minimal relative to other threats in their lives.
My estimate is that nearly all negative consequences of lack of privacy on the internet have not been due to any sort of nefarious tracking and data gathering on the part of tech companies, but due to people voluntarily sharing information about themselves and those close to them and using various apps as intended. There's a lot of paranoia about how much data is out there, but I can't think of really any major consequences, especially given how pervasive this is all supposed to be. Meanwhile, people getting in trouble due to information they voluntarily shared is extremely common.
- flukus 7y ago> They choose to use websites and software, whose developers in turn choose to send usage data to third parties. Even that incredibly low bar isn't cleared. When you visit a random web site you get tracked by google/facebook before you can be aware that this site is sending your information to them, clicking a link does not imply trust or consent.
- AstralStorm 7y agoThere are even sneakier tricks like pictures incl. Web bugs and typically invisible things such as analytics JavaScript and third party cookies.
- orcthwy012 7y agoHow is that bar not cleared? You have a choice as to which websites to visit and the website developer has a choice as to which third-party pixels are included.
- flukus 7y agoI don't have an informed choice until after I visit the website. Even then it's only an informed choice because I'm a developer and know what's going on under the hood.