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that site is a bit disingenuous -- it doesn't distinguish between projects that were merely upgraded/renamed/deprecated for good reason for example, "secure go

by modzu 7y ago

that site is a bit disingenuous -- it doesn't distinguish between projects that were merely upgraded/renamed/deprecated for good reason for example, "secure google search" was "killed" but all this means is that instead of having to type "secure.google.com" to use encryption, google made HTTPS the default... there are lots of legitimate examples so such exaggerations seem unneccessary

Svip 7y ago
Odd. I can't find "secure google search" on the website. Are you confusing it with "Encrypted Search", that allowed you to search anonymously?
- modzu 7y ago
  see that's what i mean; "encrypted search" is on the list, which is referencing this: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/7631341?hl=en https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/7631341?hl=en and does not have anything more to do with "anonymous" searching
  - Svip 7y ago
    OK, but then that's different. Because you were complaining that they were not differentiating between actual killed services and things that naturally reached their end of life, but in this case, the site is actually wrong. It clearly says that it provided provided users with anonymous search, which gives the impression of something like DuckDuckGo or Startpage. But that's not what's happening, and I think that's worse than your original complaint.
    - jcrites 7y ago
      For the curious, here is the about page for encrpted.google.com from 2010: https://web.archive.org/web/20100524223335/http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=173733&hl=en https://web.archive.org/web/20100524223335/http://www.google... > Note that SSL search does not reduce the data that Google receives and logs when you search, or change the listing of these terms in your Web History
      - codyogden 7y ago
        The page you linked to is for "Google Search over SSL" and is not the same thing. Searches performed at encrypted.google.com (not just google.com with SSL) were not available in any user-facing capacity in one's Google account. It did not store the search queries in user-facing history, and did not use those terms for future search suggestions.
        icebraining 7y ago
        That's curious. I can't find any statement from Google saying that this was intended, though; seems more an oversight than a feature.

by modzu 7y ago

Svip 7y ago

Odd. I can't find "secure google search" on the website. Are you confusing it with "Encrypted Search", that allowed you to search anonymously?

modzu 7y ago
see that's what i mean; "encrypted search" is on the list, which is referencing this: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/7631341?hl=en https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/7631341?hl=en and does not have anything more to do with "anonymous" searching
- Svip 7y ago
  OK, but then that's different. Because you were complaining that they were not differentiating between actual killed services and things that naturally reached their end of life, but in this case, the site is actually wrong. It clearly says that it provided provided users with anonymous search, which gives the impression of something like DuckDuckGo or Startpage. But that's not what's happening, and I think that's worse than your original complaint.
  - jcrites 7y ago
    For the curious, here is the about page for encrpted.google.com from 2010: https://web.archive.org/web/20100524223335/http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=173733&hl=en https://web.archive.org/web/20100524223335/http://www.google... > Note that SSL search does not reduce the data that Google receives and logs when you search, or change the listing of these terms in your Web History
    - codyogden 7y ago
      The page you linked to is for "Google Search over SSL" and is not the same thing. Searches performed at encrypted.google.com (not just google.com with SSL) were not available in any user-facing capacity in one's Google account. It did not store the search queries in user-facing history, and did not use those terms for future search suggestions.
      - icebraining 7y ago
        That's curious. I can't find any statement from Google saying that this was intended, though; seems more an oversight than a feature.