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Man, Google is the new Microsoft of the 90s. Fuck them. I have 3 Nest thermostats (bought prior to the Nest acquisition.)

gboudrias 7y ago
Really curious how shutting down every service works as a business model.
- yellow_postit 7y ago
  These services aren't Google's business model of Ads.
  - AJ007 7y ago
    It is almost like their products are just PR puff pieces.
  - iscrewyou 7y ago
    I should really move away Fromm google Calendar! I keep wanting to do it and never get around to it. It’s highly doubtful they’ll kill calendar (GSuite) but I also know they’ll find a way to.
- izacus 7y ago
  Probably better than keeping products that lose money around?
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Really curious how shutting down every service works as a business model They don't shut down every service, just ones that aren't performant from a business perspective. Which, I would think, works pretty well as a business model.
Rexxar 7y ago
No. There is a lot of reasons to criticize Microsoft but they keep their services/apis alive longer than any other company.
- garmaine 7y ago
  Not the ones they put up briefly only to rout the competition. The “embrace, extend, extinguish” path. Mind you that’s the old Microsoft. The new Microsoft is totally different.
  - masklinn 7y ago
    EEE was a strategy for destroying standards through proprietary extensions: > Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions. They didn't shut down services, they'd make previous market leaders irrelevant & alternate implementations difficult to impossible (as they couldn't keep up). Their attitude here would have been to not buy Nest but ship devices reimplementing the Works-With-Nest protocol, then add convenient / useful new features to the protocol in ways difficult for Nest to implement, and finally manage to lock it down such that Nest simply wouldn't be able to use the extensions while retaining compatibility with WwN devices themselves. They'd kill Nest, not the WwN ecosystem.
- CaptainZapp 7y ago
  <cough> Plays for Sure <cough> But generally speaking I don't disagree with your assessment. It's just that media for hire was never really their strong suit and the Zune was a bit of a joke. Where they must have suffered a world of pain is to keep old software compatible on newer Windows versions and I actually appreciate that.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
    > the Zune was a bit of a joke Spoken like someone who never owned one. The hardware (built by Toshiba) was excellent as was the software - if you avoided the harebrained DRM scheme and loaded your own MP3s.
    - CaptainZapp 7y ago
      Guilty as charged! I got a defense however: You may recall that this completely idiotic DRM implementation allowed to beam a DRMd song up to 3 times to other Zune users. That process was called squirting. One /. commenter suggested that one should imagine Steve Balmer in the process of squirting. Well, that pretty much killed it for me.

gboudrias 7y ago

Really curious how shutting down every service works as a business model.

yellow_postit 7y ago
These services aren't Google's business model of Ads.
- AJ007 7y ago
  It is almost like their products are just PR puff pieces.
- iscrewyou 7y ago
  I should really move away Fromm google Calendar! I keep wanting to do it and never get around to it. It’s highly doubtful they’ll kill calendar (GSuite) but I also know they’ll find a way to.
izacus 7y ago
Probably better than keeping products that lose money around?
dragonwriter 7y ago
> Really curious how shutting down every service works as a business model They don't shut down every service, just ones that aren't performant from a business perspective. Which, I would think, works pretty well as a business model.

Rexxar 7y ago

No. There is a lot of reasons to criticize Microsoft but they keep their services/apis alive longer than any other company.

garmaine 7y ago
Not the ones they put up briefly only to rout the competition. The “embrace, extend, extinguish” path. Mind you that’s the old Microsoft. The new Microsoft is totally different.
- masklinn 7y ago
  EEE was a strategy for destroying standards through proprietary extensions: > Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions. They didn't shut down services, they'd make previous market leaders irrelevant & alternate implementations difficult to impossible (as they couldn't keep up). Their attitude here would have been to not buy Nest but ship devices reimplementing the Works-With-Nest protocol, then add convenient / useful new features to the protocol in ways difficult for Nest to implement, and finally manage to lock it down such that Nest simply wouldn't be able to use the extensions while retaining compatibility with WwN devices themselves. They'd kill Nest, not the WwN ecosystem.
CaptainZapp 7y ago
<cough> Plays for Sure <cough> But generally speaking I don't disagree with your assessment. It's just that media for hire was never really their strong suit and the Zune was a bit of a joke. Where they must have suffered a world of pain is to keep old software compatible on newer Windows versions and I actually appreciate that.
- SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
  > the Zune was a bit of a joke Spoken like someone who never owned one. The hardware (built by Toshiba) was excellent as was the software - if you avoided the harebrained DRM scheme and loaded your own MP3s.
  - CaptainZapp 7y ago
    Guilty as charged! I got a defense however: You may recall that this completely idiotic DRM implementation allowed to beam a DRMd song up to 3 times to other Zune users. That process was called squirting. One /. commenter suggested that one should imagine Steve Balmer in the process of squirting. Well, that pretty much killed it for me.