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Pocophone F1? Sure, if you want to trust all your most personal info to Xiaomi. I don't know any security folks who consider that a rational choice anymore. I

by Bud 7y ago

Pocophone F1? Sure, if you want to trust all your most personal info to Xiaomi. I don't know any security folks who consider that a rational choice anymore. I don't want Beijing having that info on me, plus the ability to surveil me at any time.

blacksmith_tb 7y ago
It is supported by LineageOS, at least[1]. I have been using one as a daily driver for the past week, and though the hardware is nice otherwise, the band support in the US is poor. 1: https://download.lineageos.org/beryllium https://download.lineageos.org/beryllium
- ethbro 7y ago
  Here's how I look at it: Google - Wants my data, willing to play the long game, has the scale to properly support security updates Third party US manufacturers - Wants my data, playing the short game, suspect UI choices Chinese manufacturers - Wants my data, suspect UI choices, unknown motives with regard to data privacy Open source OSs - High data privacy, absolutely controllable OS Weighting between the 4, my threat model prefers a Google phone, despite the privacy downside. Google does creepy things, but ultimately they don't really care if a power user turns off tracking: they only care if everyone turns off tracking.
  - Bud 7y ago
    There's also this company called "Apple" you might want to look into, if privacy is relevant to you. ;)
    - hutzlibu 7y ago
      You have to trust them, though. They sayy they care about privacy and yes, they make most money on selling devices and not on advertisement, but who guarantees that is not to change any moment? And aren't they allready in the advertisement buisness as well? So also have a motive for getting and evaluating all your data?
    - ethbro 7y ago
      No root. I prefer owning things to leasing them.
Youden 7y ago
Is there actual evidence of wrongdoing on Xiaomi's part? If they're abusing my data it should be trivial to verify by MITMing my device. Can you point to someone who has done this and found something? Forgive me if I don't take your word for it. There's been a lot of anti-anything-that-isnt-america news going around lately. Anyhow, as another poster points out, it has LineageOS support, which is what I use.

by Bud 7y ago

blacksmith_tb 7y ago

It is supported by LineageOS, at least[1]. I have been using one as a daily driver for the past week, and though the hardware is nice otherwise, the band support in the US is poor. 1: https://download.lineageos.org/beryllium https://download.lineageos.org/beryllium

ethbro 7y ago
Here's how I look at it: Google - Wants my data, willing to play the long game, has the scale to properly support security updates Third party US manufacturers - Wants my data, playing the short game, suspect UI choices Chinese manufacturers - Wants my data, suspect UI choices, unknown motives with regard to data privacy Open source OSs - High data privacy, absolutely controllable OS Weighting between the 4, my threat model prefers a Google phone, despite the privacy downside. Google does creepy things, but ultimately they don't really care if a power user turns off tracking: they only care if everyone turns off tracking.
- Bud 7y ago
  There's also this company called "Apple" you might want to look into, if privacy is relevant to you. ;)
  - hutzlibu 7y ago
    You have to trust them, though. They sayy they care about privacy and yes, they make most money on selling devices and not on advertisement, but who guarantees that is not to change any moment? And aren't they allready in the advertisement buisness as well? So also have a motive for getting and evaluating all your data?
  - ethbro 7y ago
    No root. I prefer owning things to leasing them.

Youden 7y ago

Is there actual evidence of wrongdoing on Xiaomi's part? If they're abusing my data it should be trivial to verify by MITMing my device. Can you point to someone who has done this and found something? Forgive me if I don't take your word for it. There's been a lot of anti-anything-that-isnt-america news going around lately. Anyhow, as another poster points out, it has LineageOS support, which is what I use.