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The telemetry on OS X is anonymous, opt-in, and can be disabled entirely in much fewer (like, a fraction) steps than on W10. W10 puts advertisements by default

The telemetry on OS X is anonymous, opt-in, and can be disabled entirely in much fewer (like, a fraction) steps than on W10. W10 puts advertisements by default into the core OS experience. This is not even a close contest from a privacy standpoint.

WorldMaker 7y ago
The telemetry on Windows is anonymous unless opt-in (to various Insiders groups), and while it is more steps to opt-out that's because it is more granular, which is a strongly beneficial middle ground if you wish to pick and choose which telemetry you'd like to provide (so as to impact product decisions of products you trust). macOS and iOS have as many in-box first, second, and third party apps in the out-of-box experience as Windows 10, have similar "advertisements" of suggested apps in the app store and search (Siri suggestions), areas which are similarly "core OS experience". Everything is far more alike than it is different between Apple's operating systems and Windows right now, even if you don't see it.
- hendersoon 7y ago
  Microsoft does not _permit_ Home and Pro Windows users to opt-out of their telemetry. There is no supported way to do it, you need to either manually hack through the registry and task scheduler or use a third-party tool like Shutup10 to turn it off.
  - WorldMaker 7y ago
    Pro has the same opt-out support as Enterprise today. Things that needed hacks to opt-out of have been fixed in the last few years with Windows 10 and have opt-out settings. (Each release has only tried to get better at telemetry options, because Microsoft actually is listening to the feedback and does seem to care about privacy.) The telemetry that Home is not allowed to opt-out of are the same bits of telemetry that Windows did not allow opting out of nearly at all in versions of Windows 10 prior to 10. (Especially, Windows Error Reporting has been opt-in by default in Windows since XP.)

WorldMaker 7y ago

The telemetry on Windows is anonymous unless opt-in (to various Insiders groups), and while it is more steps to opt-out that's because it is more granular, which is a strongly beneficial middle ground if you wish to pick and choose which telemetry you'd like to provide (so as to impact product decisions of products you trust). macOS and iOS have as many in-box first, second, and third party apps in the out-of-box experience as Windows 10, have similar "advertisements" of suggested apps in the app store and search (Siri suggestions), areas which are similarly "core OS experience". Everything is far more alike than it is different between Apple's operating systems and Windows right now, even if you don't see it.

hendersoon 7y ago
Microsoft does not _permit_ Home and Pro Windows users to opt-out of their telemetry. There is no supported way to do it, you need to either manually hack through the registry and task scheduler or use a third-party tool like Shutup10 to turn it off.
- WorldMaker 7y ago
  Pro has the same opt-out support as Enterprise today. Things that needed hacks to opt-out of have been fixed in the last few years with Windows 10 and have opt-out settings. (Each release has only tried to get better at telemetry options, because Microsoft actually is listening to the feedback and does seem to care about privacy.) The telemetry that Home is not allowed to opt-out of are the same bits of telemetry that Windows did not allow opting out of nearly at all in versions of Windows 10 prior to 10. (Especially, Windows Error Reporting has been opt-in by default in Windows since XP.)