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"While there are certain play patterns, the space of potential actions is extremely large and there is a great number of synergistic interactions between cards
by rsync 8y ago
"While there are certain play patterns, the space of potential actions is extremely large and there is a great number of synergistic interactions between cards that needs to be taken into account."
Yes, that's certainly the promise of MTG - and is the reason why I was drawn to it originally and continue to be, at least passively, interested in it.
The idea is that there are so many different cards and so many potential interactions that every deck could be fantastically unique and every game could produce very unique outcomes.
I have found, in 25 years of playing MTG that this is not the case. The reality is that in every release, or set of "legal" cards, there are a few overwhelmingly advantageous cards and card combinations that must either be adhered to or prepared against. Further, "classes" of decks (counter decks, control decks, blast decks, etc.) need to be fairly simple and anti-fragile to work effectively given the random draw, etc.
My opinion, circa 1998 or 1999, was that to really open up the playing space, WOTC needed to produce sets of very complex cards that had abilities and interactions that in themselves were as complicated as the game was. Cards whose abilities and interactions we would still be discovering years later. Perhaps even random attributes/abilities For obvious reasons this is not the direction they went and would be a big hurdle for new players.
And so every set has, effectively, its own channel+fireball and we all play that or prepare for it and for all the turing-completeness, there's not that many surprises at the game store on Friday night ...
- manifestsilence 8y agoWell put! MTG is notorious in the huge gap between the potential complexity and the actual complexity of most games. I've found that deck design is a far more interesting problem than the in-game play strategy, and unfortunately most really interesting decks end up far too fragile or slow to compete with the optimal strategies. Someone really ought to design a format that bans all the straightforward but powerful cards, forcing a bit more creativity into the mix, but I fear the banned list would be prohibitively long and surprisingly difficult to come up with after the first round of obvious bans. There's always some new infinite combo that's a little too easy to pull off once the super fast quick wins are out of the way. Edit: there's always that person (I've occasionally been him) who doesn't play to win and just tries to mess with the game's limits as much as possible. I knew someone with a "Jester Deck" that played cards that so mangled the rules that no one could even figure out how to finish the game any more. That was pretty interesting.