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We all enjoy customising our setup? A web dev friendly developer experience and a javascript plugin ecosystem opens that up to a new audience. It's a pretty b

We all enjoy customising our setup? A web dev friendly developer experience and a javascript plugin ecosystem opens that up to a new audience. It's a pretty big audience. I guess the hope is that raises the bar for what users expect from a terminal and it's plugins, while providing performance that is adequate enough for it's target audience.

StevePerkins 7y ago
I dunno. An audience that's fine with a 1,000-line scroll buffer probably aren't heavy terminal users in the first place. Before you can "raise the bar", you need to reach feature parity with the built-in OSX terminal, or any of the hundred Windows apps like ConEmu.
- petetttt 7y ago
  That's kind of what I mean—the audience for this isn't heavy terminal users. You can still raise the bar for them!
  - fluxsauce 7y ago
    Just because you don't consider yourself part of the audience doesn't mean this isn't intended for heavy terminal users. I'm using it right now and I'm impressed by the performance with dozens of production logs that aren't limited to a thousand lines of scrollback. Gatekeeping isn't inclusive.
- axelf4 7y ago
  Hey! No need to play gatekeeper. FWIW, when using tmux, a scrollback of 0 is more than plenty.
  - StevePerkins 7y ago
    I'm not sure what a "gatekeeper" is, or the concern with it being "not inclusive". I suspect this is Twitter jargon, leaking out more broadly. Terminal apps are a 1970's concept. We're discussing the possible use cases for a brand new one, which has yet to implement a number of basic features common to virtually all existing ones. If anyone happens to not need those common features, and does have use cases satisfied by the new entry, then that's great! Your existence is not invalidated, there is no membership card for anyone to revoke. However, while I'm not sure if there's a contemporary jargon term for expressing this in a single word... you should perhaps avoid "raise the bar" boasts, if you're simultaneously sensitive to anyone else pointing at a bar.
  - iptq 7y ago
    tmux has scroll back, just hit ctrl-b [

StevePerkins 7y ago

I dunno. An audience that's fine with a 1,000-line scroll buffer probably aren't heavy terminal users in the first place. Before you can "raise the bar", you need to reach feature parity with the built-in OSX terminal, or any of the hundred Windows apps like ConEmu.

petetttt 7y ago
That's kind of what I mean—the audience for this isn't heavy terminal users. You can still raise the bar for them!
- fluxsauce 7y ago
  Just because you don't consider yourself part of the audience doesn't mean this isn't intended for heavy terminal users. I'm using it right now and I'm impressed by the performance with dozens of production logs that aren't limited to a thousand lines of scrollback. Gatekeeping isn't inclusive.
axelf4 7y ago
Hey! No need to play gatekeeper. FWIW, when using tmux, a scrollback of 0 is more than plenty.
- StevePerkins 7y ago
  I'm not sure what a "gatekeeper" is, or the concern with it being "not inclusive". I suspect this is Twitter jargon, leaking out more broadly. Terminal apps are a 1970's concept. We're discussing the possible use cases for a brand new one, which has yet to implement a number of basic features common to virtually all existing ones. If anyone happens to not need those common features, and does have use cases satisfied by the new entry, then that's great! Your existence is not invalidated, there is no membership card for anyone to revoke. However, while I'm not sure if there's a contemporary jargon term for expressing this in a single word... you should perhaps avoid "raise the bar" boasts, if you're simultaneously sensitive to anyone else pointing at a bar.
- iptq 7y ago
  tmux has scroll back, just hit ctrl-b [