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what freaks me out is it's almost as if someone planned this.

mieseratte 7y ago
> what freaks me out is that it's almost as if someone planned this. Why would prior planning freak you out? This is a bit confusing to me.
- teknopurge 7y ago
  I tend to not give political leadership much credit in that area...(successful planning and execution)
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    Ah, that's interesting. I tend to view political leadership as intelligent, calculating, and manipulative but in service of "greed," that is for their own gain or that of their major donors, as opposed to their voter-constituency. As such, planning doesn't surprise me but genuinely beneficial legislation does.
all2 7y ago
The fact that the national (and international) media's narrative about Trump and company might be wrong?
- jbigelow76 7y ago
  I'd think that would be giving him too much credit. I think it's more of "a broken clock is still right twice a day". Trump can declare tarriffs and fit the whole decleration in a tweet, it's instant gratification for his feedback loop and keeps all things Russia related further down the news feed.
  - booboolayla 7y ago
    I think it will only be in a couple of decades that a lot of us will realize why it was someone with character and persona of Trump that was put in place to be the face of a huge change of course of the behemoth ship called the USA. Let's all keep thinking we're smarter than him, while the invisible hands change the world.
  - Fjolsvith 7y ago
    Too bad that Mueller thing didn't have much Russia related.
- inflatableDodo 7y ago
  My narrative about Trump is from listening to him speak and reading what he writes. From this I get the impression of someone whose ignorance is far deeper than their stupidity, whilst being pretty damn stupid. The one thing he does seem to know is some NLP techniques, of the kind employed at shady car dealerships, though he seems to be doing that more by rote rather than displaying any deep understanding. edit - however I do like his assertion in a tweet recently that his first two years of governance have been a kind of German cake.
  - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
    We're living in a world where neither the entire political machine of the oval office nor the very spell check on the device he is currently using to type can keep the commander in chief from admitting even to himself that he made a simple spelling mistake. Wow.
  - all2 7y ago
    German cake? Care to link?
    - inflatableDodo 7y ago
      https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/trump-s-twitter-typo-turns-him-into-a-joke/769428.html https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/trump-s-twitter-typo...
  - Fjolsvith 7y ago
    Hucksters never let you see how smart they are.
    - inflatableDodo 7y ago
      He is a sports-star of bullshit. He's not the best by a long shot, I have better in my own family, he's not got the vocabulary to play a wide field for one thing, but he is in the leagues. edit - just reading the news this morning. He is perhaps further up the leagues than I thought.
- jayd16 7y ago
  No one questioned that the US could hurt China. Did we forget that that isn't the point? So far the US has not gained anything from this.
  - Fjolsvith 7y ago
    Its going to happen. Right now China is on the brink of some massive starvation due to their hog epidemic. [1] Pork is their largest meat consumed. When they've slaughtered 90% of their herd, the price of pork will go through the roof across the globe. This will increase the cost of all agricultural goods. When food becomes expensive for China what will their newly affluent middle-class do? What will the poorer people do? 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19823238 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19823238
    - Fjolsvith 7y ago
      Just found the source of this epidemic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9bP6wo8rA&list=WL&index=49&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9bP6wo8rA&list=WL&index=49...

> what freaks me out is that it's almost as if someone planned this. Why would prior planning freak you out? This is a bit confusing to me.

teknopurge 7y ago
I tend to not give political leadership much credit in that area...(successful planning and execution)
- mieseratte 7y ago
  Ah, that's interesting. I tend to view political leadership as intelligent, calculating, and manipulative but in service of "greed," that is for their own gain or that of their major donors, as opposed to their voter-constituency. As such, planning doesn't surprise me but genuinely beneficial legislation does.

all2 7y ago

The fact that the national (and international) media's narrative about Trump and company might be wrong?

jbigelow76 7y ago
I'd think that would be giving him too much credit. I think it's more of "a broken clock is still right twice a day". Trump can declare tarriffs and fit the whole decleration in a tweet, it's instant gratification for his feedback loop and keeps all things Russia related further down the news feed.
- booboolayla 7y ago
  I think it will only be in a couple of decades that a lot of us will realize why it was someone with character and persona of Trump that was put in place to be the face of a huge change of course of the behemoth ship called the USA. Let's all keep thinking we're smarter than him, while the invisible hands change the world.
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  Too bad that Mueller thing didn't have much Russia related.
inflatableDodo 7y ago
My narrative about Trump is from listening to him speak and reading what he writes. From this I get the impression of someone whose ignorance is far deeper than their stupidity, whilst being pretty damn stupid. The one thing he does seem to know is some NLP techniques, of the kind employed at shady car dealerships, though he seems to be doing that more by rote rather than displaying any deep understanding. edit - however I do like his assertion in a tweet recently that his first two years of governance have been a kind of German cake.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
  We're living in a world where neither the entire political machine of the oval office nor the very spell check on the device he is currently using to type can keep the commander in chief from admitting even to himself that he made a simple spelling mistake. Wow.
- all2 7y ago
  German cake? Care to link?
  - inflatableDodo 7y ago
    https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/trump-s-twitter-typo-turns-him-into-a-joke/769428.html https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/trump-s-twitter-typo...
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  Hucksters never let you see how smart they are.
  - inflatableDodo 7y ago
    He is a sports-star of bullshit. He's not the best by a long shot, I have better in my own family, he's not got the vocabulary to play a wide field for one thing, but he is in the leagues. edit - just reading the news this morning. He is perhaps further up the leagues than I thought.
jayd16 7y ago
No one questioned that the US could hurt China. Did we forget that that isn't the point? So far the US has not gained anything from this.
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  Its going to happen. Right now China is on the brink of some massive starvation due to their hog epidemic. [1] Pork is their largest meat consumed. When they've slaughtered 90% of their herd, the price of pork will go through the roof across the globe. This will increase the cost of all agricultural goods. When food becomes expensive for China what will their newly affluent middle-class do? What will the poorer people do? 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19823238 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19823238
  - Fjolsvith 7y ago
    Just found the source of this epidemic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9bP6wo8rA&list=WL&index=49&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9bP6wo8rA&list=WL&index=49...