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If you consider communism as far left, then yes the far left has absolutely killed millions. If you do not consider communism far left, I don't know what to tel

If you consider communism as far left, then yes the far left has absolutely killed millions. If you do not consider communism far left, I don't know what to tell you.

untog 7y ago
Expanding your criteria to encompass all of history isn't really all that helpful. Today, in the actual situation we are experiencing as opposed to political movements that have been dead for decades, the far right are more violent than the far left by a large margin.
- dagw 7y ago
  far right are more violent than the far left by a large margin. Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but you're going to have to define your terms more narrowly if you want your argument to hold. Which countries, who's "we", are we talking state actors or individuals, how to Maoist rebel groups in Asia and South America feature into your calculus etc.
  - untog 7y ago
    Given what we're talking about here (i.e. Gab) I'm referring to US-based groups.
  - WAHa_06x36 7y ago
    We are talking about what is relevant in the here and now. We are talking about murders that are happening now.
    - DuskStar 7y ago
      Ok, so there's no far-right murders happening NOW. Because NOW is an instant, a single point in time. Which means you need a time range to care about. And 'relevant'? Is a murder in Sri Lanka relevant? New Zealand? Venezuela? Just the US? You seem to be being as obtuse as possible.
dagw 7y ago
I suspect he's talking about individuals and activist groups in the US and Europe, rather than governments, state actors, and more formal armed militias and rebel groups.
- jamsch 7y ago
  Broadly speaking, one side believes that the government should only own guns while the other side believes that everyone should own guns. So that makes sense that you won't likely see a radical leftist use guns but you could very much see an authoritarian radical leftist government use weapons against it's defenceless civilians.
  - boobsbr 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh...

If you consider communism as far left, then yes the far left has absolutely killed millions. If you do not consider communism far left, I don't know what to tell you.

untog 7y ago

Expanding your criteria to encompass all of history isn't really all that helpful. Today, in the actual situation we are experiencing as opposed to political movements that have been dead for decades, the far right are more violent than the far left by a large margin.

dagw 7y ago
far right are more violent than the far left by a large margin. Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but you're going to have to define your terms more narrowly if you want your argument to hold. Which countries, who's "we", are we talking state actors or individuals, how to Maoist rebel groups in Asia and South America feature into your calculus etc.
- untog 7y ago
  Given what we're talking about here (i.e. Gab) I'm referring to US-based groups.
- WAHa_06x36 7y ago
  We are talking about what is relevant in the here and now. We are talking about murders that are happening now.
  - DuskStar 7y ago
    Ok, so there's no far-right murders happening NOW. Because NOW is an instant, a single point in time. Which means you need a time range to care about. And 'relevant'? Is a murder in Sri Lanka relevant? New Zealand? Venezuela? Just the US? You seem to be being as obtuse as possible.

dagw 7y ago

I suspect he's talking about individuals and activist groups in the US and Europe, rather than governments, state actors, and more formal armed militias and rebel groups.

jamsch 7y ago
Broadly speaking, one side believes that the government should only own guns while the other side believes that everyone should own guns. So that makes sense that you won't likely see a radical leftist use guns but you could very much see an authoritarian radical leftist government use weapons against it's defenceless civilians.
- boobsbr 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh...