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These are from https://gab.com/popular https://gab.com/popular right now: https://gab.com/brannon1776/posts/cDQ4dUJNKzIycHRib3ZKSU9lbTNUUT09 https://gab.com/br

These are from https://gab.com/popular https://gab.com/popular right now: https://gab.com/brannon1776/posts/cDQ4dUJNKzIycHRib3ZKSU9lbTNUUT09 https://gab.com/brannon1776/posts/cDQ4dUJNKzIycHRib3ZKSU9lbT... https://gab.com/TheSeven/posts/NUZFZXQrTk9qS0tJVlo5SHZsYnFEZz09 https://gab.com/TheSeven/posts/NUZFZXQrTk9qS0tJVlo5SHZsYnFEZ... https://gab.com/Doomer90/posts/MERObDkzVHlKK2dISDg0OFE2Um9rUT09 https://gab.com/Doomer90/posts/MERObDkzVHlKK2dISDg0OFE2Um9rU... https://gab.com/IKNOWTHETRUTH1488/posts/Q1VhM3h1REJNa05udE93VHk5YjJSdz09 https://gab.com/IKNOWTHETRUTH1488/posts/Q1VhM3h1REJNa05udE93... Is this really what you are wanting to defend? Is this just a "bad reputation" where "truth doesn't matter"?

seymourbuttes 7y ago
This is like grabbing bugchasing subculture screenshots from the 80s or 90s and using them to argue against the entire homosexual community. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing
busymom0 7y ago
If you go out looking for it, you will find a LOT more of that stuff on Twitter, Facebook, Patreon (Search for it) and Reddit. Gab is a free speech platform - similar to how phone carriers aren't held liable for what people speak on it, same way for Gab. It's not Gab's responsibility if the users are talking garbage.
- WAHa_06x36 7y ago
  I didn't go looking for it. I literally went to the page of the most popular posts, and scrolled down a couple of times. It absolutely, 100% is Gab's responsibility for not policing their platform. In fact, they invite this kind of behaviour. This is exactly what they want on their site.
  - busymom0 7y ago
    I would disagree. There is a difference between publisher and platform. If Gab was publishing illegal stuff themselves, then it would be different. Gab actively takes down speech which is illegal (action to violence type). But simple hate speech (even if it's offensive and rude) is still free speech and legally covered by the first amendment in the US. Same way Google isn't held liable for hosting illegal pirated content as long as they take it down. But you can't go sue Google because they show you news about something which you find offensive.
    - WAHa_06x36 7y ago
      The law does not define morals, or ethics. They invite the worst kind of hatemongers to their site. That makes them as bad in my books. If all you care about is whether they are following the letter of the law or not, that is a very naïve and childish view.
      - popzq 7y ago
        On the other hand, wanting to silence those you disagree with is very mature.
      - busymom0 7y ago
        The argument boils down to what exactly is hate speech. Something which you find offensive could be totally okay to a lot of other people. Culture, language, satire/comedy/sarcasm etc all play a huge role in what's offensive to someone. I am an immigrant from another country and things which are said there is offensive here and vice versa.
      - repolfx 7y ago
        But you can argue Twitter does the same. I see hate speech against my race and gender all the time. For evidence, just look at what happens when people post "it's ok to be white". Notch did it recently: massive meltdown. Very obviously these platforms are full of people who don't think it's OK to be white, which is pure racist hatred. Where are the bans? Why does saying such an innocuous thing trigger such hatred with no response from these supposedly hate-fighting platforms? What about all the hate towards Trump when he says good morning, have a nice day? Nothing happens. Of course, we know why. It's because the people who run them are fine with the right kind of hate, if they believe it to be justified by history.
popzq 7y ago
I don't know what you expect from a website where people go when they get banned from everywhere else.
- WAHa_06x36 7y ago
  I expect people to maybe not make such a huge effort to protect and defend this utter garbage.
  - popzq 7y ago
    That's cool, not everybody has to like free speech; defending free speech or not is purely a political opinion, like many other issues.
    - WAHa_06x36 7y ago
      See, I'd be more impressed by the "we're just defending free speech" argument that comes up so often if it was ever for anything other than racism, sexism and hate.
      - yorwba 7y ago
        It's also used for pornography, e.g. when Tumblr decided to clean their platform, the LGBT+ community seemed to be hit especially hard.
      - forgottenpass 7y ago
        Upholding principles only count when it's uncomfortable. Otherwise they're not principles. Of course the things getting pushed away are unpalatable, that's why they're targeted.
xfitm3 7y ago
Personally I don’t agree with any of that - but I’ll defend someone else’s right to be wrong.
- WAHa_06x36 7y ago
  That is easy to do when you are not threatened by these people. But they literally kill people. And they will kill many more if they gain more power. Do you think those dead people will thank you for your brave efforts?
  - Funes- 7y ago
    >But they literally kill people. And they will kill many more if they gain more power. Do you think those dead people will thank you for your brave efforts? Who are "they"? Who is literally killing people? Those are very serious accusations to just be thrown around within such a broad, imprecise, and vague message. Moreover, who are you to decide for the rest of us what kind of speech is deemed dangerous or otherwise? I don't think any collective's arbitrary criteria should automatically apply to limit free speech, if there should be a limit, that is. These are immensely important issues that have to be decided through very careful deliberation, not just a vague sentiment or subjective impression held by a group of people, as it dictates the manner in which we communicate and express ourselves with one another, and that shouldn't be up for grabs.
    - WAHa_06x36 7y ago
      You are aware that most of recent mass murderers have been from the far right, many even posting on gab?
      - Funes- 7y ago
        You are aware that mass murdering is and has been carried out by people encompassing the whole religious and political spectrum, right?
        7y ago
tumetab1 7y ago
I wasn't saying that Gab has "good" content. I was just pointing out that press, and regular joes, associate Gab with terrorism because of 2/3 terrorism cases, In those cases the terrorists used other social media sites with a greater impact. This association with terrorism isn't a fair representation of the truth.

seymourbuttes 7y ago

This is like grabbing bugchasing subculture screenshots from the 80s or 90s and using them to argue against the entire homosexual community. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing

busymom0 7y ago

If you go out looking for it, you will find a LOT more of that stuff on Twitter, Facebook, Patreon (Search for it) and Reddit. Gab is a free speech platform - similar to how phone carriers aren't held liable for what people speak on it, same way for Gab. It's not Gab's responsibility if the users are talking garbage.

WAHa_06x36 7y ago
I didn't go looking for it. I literally went to the page of the most popular posts, and scrolled down a couple of times. It absolutely, 100% is Gab's responsibility for not policing their platform. In fact, they invite this kind of behaviour. This is exactly what they want on their site.
- busymom0 7y ago
  I would disagree. There is a difference between publisher and platform. If Gab was publishing illegal stuff themselves, then it would be different. Gab actively takes down speech which is illegal (action to violence type). But simple hate speech (even if it's offensive and rude) is still free speech and legally covered by the first amendment in the US. Same way Google isn't held liable for hosting illegal pirated content as long as they take it down. But you can't go sue Google because they show you news about something which you find offensive.
  - WAHa_06x36 7y ago
    The law does not define morals, or ethics. They invite the worst kind of hatemongers to their site. That makes them as bad in my books. If all you care about is whether they are following the letter of the law or not, that is a very naïve and childish view.
    - popzq 7y ago
      On the other hand, wanting to silence those you disagree with is very mature.
    - busymom0 7y ago
      The argument boils down to what exactly is hate speech. Something which you find offensive could be totally okay to a lot of other people. Culture, language, satire/comedy/sarcasm etc all play a huge role in what's offensive to someone. I am an immigrant from another country and things which are said there is offensive here and vice versa.
    - repolfx 7y ago
      But you can argue Twitter does the same. I see hate speech against my race and gender all the time. For evidence, just look at what happens when people post "it's ok to be white". Notch did it recently: massive meltdown. Very obviously these platforms are full of people who don't think it's OK to be white, which is pure racist hatred. Where are the bans? Why does saying such an innocuous thing trigger such hatred with no response from these supposedly hate-fighting platforms? What about all the hate towards Trump when he says good morning, have a nice day? Nothing happens. Of course, we know why. It's because the people who run them are fine with the right kind of hate, if they believe it to be justified by history.

popzq 7y ago

I don't know what you expect from a website where people go when they get banned from everywhere else.

WAHa_06x36 7y ago
I expect people to maybe not make such a huge effort to protect and defend this utter garbage.
- popzq 7y ago
  That's cool, not everybody has to like free speech; defending free speech or not is purely a political opinion, like many other issues.
  - WAHa_06x36 7y ago
    See, I'd be more impressed by the "we're just defending free speech" argument that comes up so often if it was ever for anything other than racism, sexism and hate.
    - yorwba 7y ago
      It's also used for pornography, e.g. when Tumblr decided to clean their platform, the LGBT+ community seemed to be hit especially hard.
    - forgottenpass 7y ago
      Upholding principles only count when it's uncomfortable. Otherwise they're not principles. Of course the things getting pushed away are unpalatable, that's why they're targeted.

xfitm3 7y ago

Personally I don’t agree with any of that - but I’ll defend someone else’s right to be wrong.

WAHa_06x36 7y ago
That is easy to do when you are not threatened by these people. But they literally kill people. And they will kill many more if they gain more power. Do you think those dead people will thank you for your brave efforts?
- Funes- 7y ago
  >But they literally kill people. And they will kill many more if they gain more power. Do you think those dead people will thank you for your brave efforts? Who are "they"? Who is literally killing people? Those are very serious accusations to just be thrown around within such a broad, imprecise, and vague message. Moreover, who are you to decide for the rest of us what kind of speech is deemed dangerous or otherwise? I don't think any collective's arbitrary criteria should automatically apply to limit free speech, if there should be a limit, that is. These are immensely important issues that have to be decided through very careful deliberation, not just a vague sentiment or subjective impression held by a group of people, as it dictates the manner in which we communicate and express ourselves with one another, and that shouldn't be up for grabs.
  - WAHa_06x36 7y ago
    You are aware that most of recent mass murderers have been from the far right, many even posting on gab?
    - Funes- 7y ago
      You are aware that mass murdering is and has been carried out by people encompassing the whole religious and political spectrum, right?
      - 7y ago

tumetab1 7y ago

I wasn't saying that Gab has "good" content. I was just pointing out that press, and regular joes, associate Gab with terrorism because of 2/3 terrorism cases, In those cases the terrorists used other social media sites with a greater impact. This association with terrorism isn't a fair representation of the truth.